What evidence does the Trump administration have for their claim that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is/was a member of MS-13?

[The Mark]

What evidence does the Trump administration have for their claim that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is/was a member of MS-13?

And I mean...ACTUAL evidence, not lies and bullshit.

From what I've seen, there were claims that he was MS-13 that did not hold up in court, but which were apparently taken as enough to rendition him.

TO be clear though, we shouldn't be renditioning people without due process for any reason, even if they're MS-13 members who literally killed U.S. Citizens.

Edit: Because, if we allow that, there is nothing to stop them from renditioning U.S. Citizens they dislike.

 

[NWRatCon]

They haven't finished making it up...

 

[Lycanthrope]

Donald said it

I believe it

That settles it

MAGA!!!

 

[ElChupacabra]

What evidence does the Trump administration have for their claim that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is/was a member of MS-13?

And I mean...ACTUAL evidence, not lies and bullshit.

From what I've seen, there were claims that he was MS-13 that did not hold up in court, but which were apparently taken as enough to rendition him.

TO be clear though, we shouldn't be renditioning people without due process for any reason, even if they're MS-13 members who literally killed U.S. Citizens.

Edit: Because, if we allow that, there is nothing to stop them from renditioning U.S. Citizens they dislike.

They only have what was in the gang field interview sheet kept by the Prince George's PD, and what's in that is pretty vague and lacks any specific evidence other than hearsay. Two judges decided it was credible despite the issues with the claims made by the informant and the officer who produced the report of the March 2019 incident. He was fired from the force for not long after for misconduct in another case. What's interesting in these types of immigration cases is there's a bias against release, so any information can be used against you to prevent your release. He was asked to provide evidence he wasn't a gang member, which is pretty ridiculous. The thing is the judge didn't make a definitive finding he was in a gang, but said there was enough in the report that he might be.

 

[phoenix2020]

What evidence does the Trump administration have for their claim that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is/was a member of MS-13?

And I mean...ACTUAL evidence, not lies and bullshit.

From what I've seen, there were claims that he was MS-13 that did not hold up in court, but which were apparently taken as enough to rendition him.

TO be clear though, we shouldn't be renditioning people without due process for any reason, even if they're MS-13 members who literally killed U.S. Citizens.

Edit: Because, if we allow that, there is nothing to stop them from renditioning U.S. Citizens they dislike.

His skin color isn't white. That's basically it.

 

[Airyaman]

What evidence does the Trump administration have for their claim that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is/was a member of MS-13?

And I mean...ACTUAL evidence, not lies and bullshit.

From what I've seen, there were claims that he was MS-13 that did not hold up in court, but which were apparently taken as enough to rendition him.

TO be clear though, we shouldn't be renditioning people without due process for any reason, even if they're MS-13 members who literally killed U.S. Citizens.

Edit: Because, if we allow that, there is nothing to stop them from renditioning U.S. Citizens they dislike.

He's Hispanic and he has tats.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

FOX NEWS SAYS SO!!

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Donald said it

I believe it

That settles it

MAGA!!!

Damn! Beat me to it!

 

[BabaVoss]

None.

 

[Slavister]

According to this:

"On a “Gang Field Interview Sheet,” police wrote that Abrego Garcia was “wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie with decorations of rolls of money covering the eyes, ears and mouth of the presidents on the separate denominations.”

“Officers know such clothing to be indicative of the Hispanic gang culture,” the form states, adding that the depiction on the hoodie was a reference to “see no evil, hear no evil and say no evil,” which they also argue is associated with MS-13.

They also cited a tip from a confidential informant who said Abrego Garcia was part of MS-13’s “Westerns” clique, which operates out of New York. Attorneys for Abrego Garcia say he has never lived in New York.

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It was his bid to be released from custody that spurred a review by immigration Judge Elizabeth Kessler, who noted ICE’s reasoning for his arrest in regards to a murder investigation “does appear at odds with the Gang Field Interview Sheet, which states that the Respondent was approached because he and others were loitering outside of a Home Depot.”

She nonetheless declined to release Abrego Garcia as he asked for asylum, saying the confidential tip asserting he had ties to MS-13 “appears to be trustworthy.” At the same time, she expressed misgivings about authorities suggesting his clothing should be considered evidence that he was a member of the gang.

“The determination that the Respondent is a gang member appears to be trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely, information contained in the Gang Field Interview Sheet. Although the Court is reluctant to give evidentiary weight to the Respondent’s clothing as an indication of gang affiliation, the fact that a ‘past, proven, and reliable source of information’ verified the Respondent’s gang membership, rank, and gang name is sufficient to support that the Respondent is a gang member,” Kessler wrote, referring to the informant’s tip.

The Trump administration has said that two judges have found Abrego Garcia was a “verified” gang member — a reference to Kessler’s decision, which was upheld on appeal by another judge.

But Kessler only said the informant had identified Abrego Garcia as a gang member, and her decision was limited to the question of whether to release him from custody."

 

[Rich2018]

He's Hispanic and he has tats.

Dead give-a-ways.