What does it mean to INFRINGE upon the Right to Keep and Bear arms

[tecoyah]

Aren't laws limiting guns, an attempt to keep the militia well regulated?

 

[TurtleDude]

Aren't laws limiting guns, an attempt to keep the militia well regulated?

uh that's really stupid because the term well regulated has nothing to do with restricting or controlling arms

its also stupid because to even think that you must believe the purpose of the 2A was to delegate power to the federal government which means you completely misunderstand that the purpose of the Bill of Rights was to impose limitations on the federal government

in other words-your question indicates a complete lack of understanding of the entire fabric of the Constitution

 

[danielpalos]

until you proffer some credentials so support your inane theories that are at odds with ever major legal scholar in the USA, I reject your opinions as asinine

so what; i didn't even need to reject yours, my picker is good enough to refute your arguments, all the time.

 

[TurtleDude]

so what; i didn't even need to reject yours, my picker is good enough to refute your arguments, all the time.

sadly for you, NO ONE has supported your silly gibberish

 

[danielpalos]

Aren't laws limiting guns, an attempt to keep the militia well regulated?

How does that work for civil Persons of the Militia of the United States who are considered through legal forms of fiction, to be unconnected with militia service (well regulated).

You are confusing the Traditional police power of a State to ensure its own security and domestic tranquility. States have elected representatives for a reason.

Laws enacted by those representatives are meant specifically for civil Persons of the Militia of the United States who are considered not well regulated or to be unorganized.

Well regulated Militias of Individuals of the People who keep and bear Arms for their State or the Union, already enjoy literal recourse to our Second Amendment.

 

[danielpalos]

sadly for you, NO ONE has supported your silly gibberish

even sadder for you, you are racking up fallacy points, left and right.

 

[TurtleDude]

Aren't laws limiting guns, an attempt to keep the militia well regulated?

i also note that since you don't believe the second amendment even guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms, your views are way way outside the mainstream and contrary to almost every major legal scholar, and the current legal authority as set forth by the USSC. indeed, if you don't believe that the 2A guarantees an individual right, you fail to understand the entire premise of the bill of rights and the foundation upon which the constitution is based

i.e. you harbor a very extreme position and that is hardly "moderate"

 

[TurtleDude]

even sadder for you, you are racking up fallacy points, left and right.

other than you, who keeps track of fallacy points. You have set the Guinness Book of World Records for incoherent posts and garbled gibberish:mrgreen:

 

[danielpalos]

i also note that since you don't believe the second amendment even guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms, your views are way way outside the mainstream and contrary to almost every major legal scholar, and the current legal authority as set forth by the USSC. indeed, if you don't believe that the 2A guarantees an individual right, you fail to understand the entire premise of the bill of rights and the foundation upon which the constitution is based

i.e. you harbor a very extreme position and that is hardly "moderate"

like this really explains, any Thing.

 

[danielpalos]

other than you, who keeps track of fallacy points. You have set the Guinness Book of World Records for incoherent posts and garbled gibberish:mrgreen:

not at all; you have merely been proving, in the public domain, how much you really care for your Cause, on a not-for-profit basis.

 

[TurtleDude]

like this really explains, any Thing.

one has to understand the issue in order to gain use from an explanation

 

[danielpalos]

one has to understand the issue in order to gain use from an explanation

sure they do; simply because special pleading is also, usually considered a fallacy.

 

[TurtleDude]

sure they do; simply because special pleading is also, usually considered a fallacy.

more gibberish

 

[danielpalos]

more gibberish

only due to your lack of competence in reading comprehension. why be incompetent for your Cause with your education and income?

 

[TurtleDude]

only due to your lack of competence in reading comprehension. why be incompetent for your Cause with your education and income?

More gibberish

 

[Dittohead not!]

only due to your lack of competence in reading comprehension. why be incompetent for your Cause with your education and income?

You either haven't read or haven't understood any of my posts on this thread. You keep repeating the same errors over and over again. It's getting tedious.

 

[danielpalos]

You either haven't read or haven't understood any of my posts on this thread. You keep repeating the same errors over and over again. It's getting tedious.

it really is as simple as who is subject to paragraph (2) of DC v Heller.

(2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Thus, only Persons who are considered specifically unconnected with Militia service, well regulated, may be Infringed with due process for the security and domestic tranquility of a free State.

 

[Dittohead not!]

it really is as simple as who is subject to paragraph (2) of DC v Heller.





Thus, only Persons who are considered specifically unconnected with Militia service, well regulated, may be Infringed with due process for the security and domestic tranquility of a free State.

Until you finally figure out that the adjective "infringed" modifies "rights" and not "persons" or "Persons", you'll never be able to understand the concepts we've been talking about.

 

[danielpalos]

Until you finally figure out that the adjective "infringed" modifies "rights" and not "persons" or "Persons", you'll never be able to understand the concepts we've been talking about.

non sequiturs and diversions are usually considered fallacies. why not get a valid argument, instead.

 

[tecoyah]

i also note that since you don't believe the second amendment even guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms, your views are way way outside the mainstream and contrary to almost every major legal scholar, and the current legal authority as set forth by the USSC. indeed, if you don't believe that the 2A guarantees an individual right, you fail to understand the entire premise of the bill of rights and the foundation upon which the constitution is based

i.e. you harbor a very extreme position and that is hardly "moderate"

Can I ask where you got the idea I do not support the right to bare arms?

As I have two registered to me.....I would question this.

 

[danielpalos]

It is only gun lovers of the People who refuse to love their republic as much as they claim to love their guns; that are Infringed by paragraph (2) of DC v Heller.

 

[Dittohead not!]

Can I ask where you got the idea I do not support the right to bare arms?

As I have two registered to me.....I would question this.

I have two registered to me, too, but I usually do wear long sleeves in the winter.