I consider lifting weights to be hard work, but there are a lot of people who enjoy it. It would be silly to try to make me an athlete or Mike Tyson a scientist. What one person considers hard work is another person's enjoyable hobby. If you put that lazy genius into what he is interested in you will reap the benefits. Not everyone lives up to their potential, but that makes them underutilized, not useless.I have to ask, how many people have you had to supervise? The ideal is someone who's smart and hardworking, but if they are both smart and hardworking, often time they become the boss. As a supervisor, I prefer people who do the work I set them even if I have to tell them in details how each should be done before hand, rather than people who see that things need to be done but can't be bothered to lift their hands unless I was there to oversee them. A "lazy genius" (an oxymoron to me) is a useless person. Try naming a few genius who achieve great things without lifting a hand to do works most people would consider hard (I think conducting thousands of experiments just to get a filament is hard).
You also give them a huge head start in what they are good at or interested in. Being good at one thing is what matters in the real world. These subjects do not have general practicalities. Sure, you can use your knowledge of gerunds while twittering or your calculus skills at the grocery store, but they aren't necessary. Very few jobs require both higher math and knowledge of literature. It is a waste of time to teach both to someone who is only good at or interested in one.That's not true. Science and advance Maths can be very useful in everyday life if only people are aware enough to employ them. Like understanding the dynamics of forces, how weathers are formed etc Understanding algebra makes decisions much easier, you can use it when you go grocery shopping - comparing prices and planning your budget etc. So it's a "waste of time" because people don't apply them, not because they are useless.
School teach all these things because they have general practicalities, and it's not certain in the future what each students will do. By narrowing the education early, you take away their choices in the future.
I consider lifting weights to be hard work, but there are a lot of people who enjoy it. It would be silly to try to make me an athlete or Mike Tyson a scientist. What one person considers hard work is another person's enjoyable hobby.
If you put that lazy genius into what he is interested in you will reap the benefits. Not everyone lives up to their potential, but that makes them underutilized, not useless.
The lazy genius janitor might not keep the windows as clean on a daily basis, but when the :hitsfan: and the building catches on fire or something, they have the potential to understand the situation and respond effectively.
You also give them a huge head start in what they are good at or interested in. Being good at one thing is what matters in the real world. These subjects do not have general practicalities. Sure, you can use your knowledge of gerunds while twittering or your calculus skills at the grocery store, but they aren't necessary. Very few jobs require both higher math and knowledge of literature. It is a waste of time to teach both to someone who is only good at or interested in one.
What about that are you wondering about?
Since the quizzes would ideally be topic specific, a pass or a fail would dictate whether the student sufficiently understood the material. For example, if there are say 5 questions, they would only be able to get 2 of those wrong before failing the quiz. Anything below a 70% is a fail in this case.
They would only be able to get one wrong before failing the quiz. 2 wrong would be 60% and it would be failing.
But even if it were true, it is not necessary for the vast majority of people to take the time to understand subjects not related to their interests or career.
That's not true. Science and advance Maths can be very useful in everyday life if only people are aware enough to employ them. Like understanding the dynamics of forces, how weathers are formed etc Understanding algebra makes decisions much easier, you can use it when you go grocery shopping - comparing prices and planning your budget etc. So it's a "waste of time" because people don't apply them, not because they are useless.
School teach all these things because they have general practicalities, and it's not certain in the future what each students will do. By narrowing the education early, you take away their choices in the future.
Someone needs to do their Maths homework more regularly. :mrgreen:
it aint tucker, he may be lacking in some areas, but he's right with his maths
you get 2 questions wrong out of 5, and you score 60%
Just to clear up, the "someone" refers to repeter.
I don't think that is true at all. I'm not saying to take it to the extremes of an idiot savant, but Rain Man was a genius. An average mathematician who also knows his state capitals might be smarter than a brilliant one who cannot tie his own shoes, but that is why we make velcro. It is the brilliant one who is going to lead to breakthroughs and discoveries. Being good at everything means you are great at nothing. Human potential needs to be focused.Well if you want to be smart you do. People can think "oh I don't need calculus" and then can't do something as simple as compound interest when filling out contracts to buy a house or a car or something. If only they paid attention. People who typically say "oh well I don't need...." have no idea what they're talking about. They don't know if they could use it because they don't know the subject. They're not interested in expanding their horizons or living up to human potential because they are happy as a cog. Fine, but I also don't think we need to listen to these lazy idiots when it comes to making high school more academically rigorous like it should be.
This makes no sense at all. People don't generally enjoy repeatedly doing things that are easy for them over and over again. Homework is annoying to people who are quick learners, not fun. People enjoy challenging themselves at things they are good at, not endlessly practicing basic skills.Right. So homework could be hardwork or enjoyable work depending on the people. For those who enjoy it (and I maintain we enjoy the things we excel at) they would still do it though they already know it. For those who don't enjoy it and most likely not having mastered it because they dislike it, it forces them to learn the lessons as homework are supposed to do.
I already said I would take the lazy genius any day. Being smart and being motivated are two different things. It's like you're saying a tool is useless if you aren't ready to use it yet. A lack of past accomplishments doesn't affect a person's potential.People utilize themselves. Smart people at least. When the person is not achieving anything despite being a "genius", that person is being useless.
So let me ask you, do you hire the stupid one who keeps thing clean everyday, or the lazy one on the tiny chance that the building might catch fire?
I don't think that is true at all. I'm not saying to take it to the extremes of an idiot savant, but Rain Man was a genius. An average mathematician who also knows his state capitals might be smarter than a brilliant one who cannot tie his own shoes, but that is why we make velcro. It is the brilliant one who is going to lead to breakthroughs and discoveries. Being good at everything means you are great at nothing. Human potential needs to be focused.
I'm not saying there can't be focus. I didn't say people need to know through linear algebra, differential equations, and partial differential equations. I said through Pre-cal at least. Pre-cal isn't a specialization in math, it's like algebra...a basic. And it's useful, especially in finance. And while it may be that being good at everything means you are great at nothing, many many people are neither good at everything or great at something. So there's no problem asking that people start to learn more of the basics. It should be expected. Calculus is a basic, I'm not asking people to understand non-Euclidean geometry. I think people need to take more math, science, language (including English), history, and political science courses in high school. The standards on high school are so pathetically low that we get people thinking that calculus is some horribly advanced subject that can never be used in every day life.
Algebra isn't even useful. There is no reason for your average adult to ever learn to multiply fractions. Once people know how to work a calculator that is enough math skills to last a lifetime.
Carpentry involves multiplying fractions all the time. It also involves algebra and geometry.
And toolbelts don't have pockets for calculators. It'd be broken in five minutes on a jobsite.
Algebra isn't even useful. There is no reason for your average adult to ever learn to multiply fractions. Once people know how to work a calculator that is enough math skills to last a lifetime.
Ummm... I did autocad and drafting with "Doyen and Associates" in Chicago. Never multiplied a fraction I can remember. We did use geometry allot, but not much in the way of algebra and calculus.
Ummm... I did autocad and drafting with "Doyen and Associates" in Chicago. Never multiplied a fraction I can remember. We did use geometry allot, but not much in the way of algebra and calculus.
P.S. I skipped steps and separated things out. The original equation would be 8/12 = X/21 (which is basic algebra). Then it becomes 21*(8/12) (which is multiplying fractions).
Since I know how to multiply fractions, I can take the 8 out momentarily and look at 21/12 = 1 and 9/12 = 1 and 3/4. Then I multiply that by 8 so I know I have 8 + 8*(3/4) = 8 + 6 = 14.
That's only because our high schools are pathetic. Students don't learn what they should, we let them take study hall and other waste of time activities. High school should be well more academically challenging and demanding. For example, how does one get a H.S. diploma without having taken at the very least pre-calculus? It's astounding the lack of education which goes on in our education system. And then we wonder why we have a society of dumbasses.
....Say wha..? My brain hurts already..... >.<
Remember that, and if you ever hear someone disparage the intelligence of carpenters and other blue-collar tradesmen, let them know that it's not all mindless labor.
Not that anyone here has said that, but I've encountered that stereotype so often in my life that I know it's real.
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