StringBean
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Let's be honest here. Germany started WW1, so blaming the Treaty of Versailles is a bit like blaming the high electric bill on the jail that just fried a mass murderer.
Treaty of Versailles 1919
Uhhhh, Germany did not start World War I. Serbian intelligence orchestrated the assassination of the Archduke of Austria-Hungary, Franz Ferdinand, and Austria went to war with Serbia in response. Russia immediately began mobilizing its military for war against Austria to protect Serbia. Germany, intent on supporting Austria against Russia and effectively assured of French support for Russia in any such war, moved to wage war against France. The British had every intention of defending France, but used Belgian neutrality as the official casus belli. Such a bizarre eventuality is exactly why George Washington warned of entangling alliances and yet the United States is in a whole bunch of such alliances at the moment.
It also seems reminiscent of every other irredentist movement that has ever existed throughout history. Serbia and Croatia made similar moves in Bosnia, Armenia did the same with Nagorno-Karabakh, Turkey did it in Northern Cyprus, and the Irish almost did it over The Troubles.
So Germany was preparing to defend an ally by invading an openly neutral, non-aggressive nation (Belgium). That's a lot like America defending itself by invading Iraq, I reckon.
But it was France who was behind picking Germany's pockets after WW l.
WW l For Dummies:
Excerpt:
>"Britain, France and America agree that Germany threw the first punch, so the whole thing is Germany's fault. While Germany is still unconscious, they go through its pockets, steal its wallet, and buy drinks for all their friends."<
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The weakness of the League of Nations. If the UN were here during this things could have been very different.
Let's be honest here. Germany started WW1, so blaming the Treaty of Versailles is a bit like blaming the high electric bill on the jail that just fried a mass murderer.
Oooooooooooooh how cute and clever this guy is. How cute and clever.What began WW2?
From a military vs. military beginning?
This...
Or this...
Opinions vary.
Oooooooooooooh how cute and clever this guy is. How cute and clever.
He thought no one here could recognize the German (pre-Dreadnought) Battleship Schleschwig-Holstein, or the German Stuka dive bomber. Wrongo, dude. And wasn't "Westerplatte" the Germanized name of the Polish fortress which was S-H's target? I do confess I had never heard say that a Stuka might have dropped a bomb before S-H opened up, but it doesn't sound implausible.
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The weakness of the League of Nations. If the UN were here during this things could have been very different.
Perceptive of you.
Geez...chip on your shoulder or what?
BS.I actually thought that many on here would know this...which is why I did not bother to post the name of the ship.
What are you talking about?- I read you exactly right on the money and did not actually contest what you wrote. You said "opinions vary" (as to who fired the first shot) and my reply "I do confess I had never heard say that a Stuka might have dropped a bomb before S-H opened up, but it doesn't sound implausible" was not ambiguous.As for the Stuka's?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Wieluń
Next time, try asking instead of looking silly by claiming to know what someone is thinking when clearly you have no clue.
Bye for now.Good day.
Perceptive of you.
BS.
What are you talking about?- I read you exactly right on the money and did not actually contest what you wrote. You said "opinions vary" (as to who fired the first shot) and my reply "I do confess I had never heard say that a Stuka might have dropped a bomb before S-H opened up, but it doesn't sound implausible" was not ambiguous.
Bye for now.
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