DeMaxx
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First off their is nothing new (Neo) about conservatives. They are todays Traditionalists. Thus "Neo-Con" is an oxymorn and is not a true statement.galenrox said:Careful with the Hitler references, the cons get upset because of that.
Yep, your ideology. I did see the movie, but the "Liberal spin" that was used while Aniken was talking with the lord of the "dark side", was supposedly the phrase that George Lucas snuck into the movie, portraying Aniken as "Bush". But too bad, most people were paying attention to the action in the movie, and not the political satire that Lucas willing put into the movie, and publicized about it. The only people I know that found it in the movie were people who were looking for it!Not to sound like a dork (which I undoubtedly will), who here saw the new Star Wars? The emperor remind you of anyone?
Wow, were in 2005 things do change in 5 years!Bush has eroded so many aspects of American life that the life we live now doesn't even resemble our lives in '99 or '00.
Second change all of your "We's" to "Me's" and we'll see who really feels that way? About American's hating other American's, why are you posting that "THEY DON'T EFFECT US". They effected you when you typed your Opinion, now let others be entitled to their OWN opinion. Its called a "debate".We hate each other because of simple differences in opinions over issues that don't effect us.
Change your "We"->"Me" and we can all see that you have your own insecurities. Try not inlisting everyone in the forum to your idealism.We're afraid of almost anything, and because of this fear half the people now don't trust the government for anything, and the other half trust the government enough to sacrifice their freedom so the government will protect them.
Neo-Cons, Liberals, oh my! It was clever how you ended to seem end as an "Idependent" on the Issue, yet your other post's prove other wise. So playing "Idependent" on me, wont work on me pall! I've read your other posts! :mrgreen:The neo-cons pass ridiculous laws, to which the liberals pass ridiculous laws wherever they can, and we are now bogged down with so much legislation and hatred that we can barely function
But what if the government they choose, is anti-American. What will we do then?Originally posted by Vauge:
Under a democracy, the Iraqi people can choose the style of governement they prefer - it does not have to be a western republic.
First, oxymorons are not necessarily untrue statements.stsburns said:First off their is nothing new (Neo) about conservatives. They are todays Traditionalists. Thus "Neo-Con" is an oxymorn and is not a true statement.
I didn't know what a neo-con was until you just explained it. I keep seeing the term, I knew it was in reference to conservatives, but I didn't know what it was all about. I also don't know what people mean by theo-con. If you could explain this, I would appreciate it.Originally posted by Simon W. Moon:
Second, the term neocon refers to a set of people who were liberals then switched to being conservative. They were new to conservatism, hence neo-conservatives.
They're not Traditionalists. They've departed from the US tradional conservative values. They reject the push for small-government. They favor big-government. They reject Realism and the idea that our military should only be used to protect our vital national interests. They favor the use of military to pursue idealistsic goals and social engineering experiments.
I'm just taking a guess. But it might be this.Originally quoted by DeMaxx:
You didn't sound like a dork. but I have not seen the new "Star Wars" movie, but you now make me want to see what you are talking about.
Allow me to provide you with the opportunity to see for yourself. From the horses' mouths so to speak.Billo_Really said:I didn't know what a neo-con was until you just explained it. I keep seeing the term, I knew it was in reference to conservatives, but I didn't know what it was all about. I also don't know what people mean by theo-con. If you could explain this, I would appreciate it.
I imagine we'll do what we've always done: overthrow the 'anti-American' government. History shows that we have supported coups to oust democratically elected but anti-American presidents, and we have supported terrible dictators who happened to be pro-American. The notion that this nation is a 'friend' and 'supporter' of democracy is untrue.Billo_Really said:But what if the government they choose, is anti-American. What will we do then?
Please note the story below:
Iraq Signs Military Pact with Iran
By Peter Graff
Reuters
Thursday 07 July 2005
Baghdad - Iraq signed a military pact with Iran on Thursday in a breakthrough with a former foe, but al Qaeda said it would kill Egypt's kidnapped envoy and attack more diplomats to stop the government winning international support.
Defence Minister Saadoun al-Dulaimi signed a pact in Tehran agreeing to accept Iranian military training and other cooperation with the country Iraq fought for a decade under ousted leader Saddam Hussein.
Responding to the suggestion that the the thaw in ties with Iran would anger Washington, Dulaimi said: "Nobody can dictate to Iraq its relations with other countries."
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