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What Americans Think about Elections

Doug64

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Time for another "What Americans Think ..." thread! Like the others these will generally be Rasmussen polls, when they do something specific enough. In this case, it's the Trump/DeSantis matchup!

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is very popular with Republican voters, but if former President Donald Trump seeks the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, most expect Trump would beat DeSantis.


Personally, I hope Trump doesn't run--in which case we'll almost certainly see a President-elect DeSantis taking the oath in 2025. If Trump does run things get a lot more iffy, and the disapproval and "Very" numbers they each have show why.
 
DeSantis hanging in to the convention then losing to Trump is just about my ideal scenario. Whatever the polls say (now) I am sure Trump cannot win again. Even without a crucial part of his base leaving with DeSantis.
 
DeSantis hanging in to the convention then losing to Trump is just about my ideal scenario. Whatever the polls say (now) I am sure Trump cannot win again. Even without a crucial part of his base leaving with DeSantis.

DeSantis' base pretty much is Trump's base--about the only ones that would "leave with DeSantis" are ones like me that simply won't vote for Trump no matter what his policies are or who his opponent is. Though if DeSantis runs even if Trump throws his hat into the ring and Trump does his usual dive into the gutter, that number might grow.
 

In primaries, it's the candidates who are alike who do the most damage to each other. For instance Warren and Sanders. Even if they try hard not to step on each other's toes, the fact they're competing for the same voters makes any small dispute between them big news.
 
True, like the Nazis and the Communists in 1920’s and early ‘30’s Germany writ small. It doesn’t help that with so little difference between their positions, alike candidates tend to turn to personal attacks.
 
So, a little good news for Democrats:

 
Something that may or may not be of much importance for Democrats (I don't know how many endorsements Biden has made for the primaries, if any), but it certainly matters for Republicans.

So far, Trump is 55-0 when it comes to endorsements this year, including all 22 in today's primaries--including Vance. I have no idea how much of that is Trump's political pull and him picking the ones most likely to win to make himself look good, probably some mix of both.
 
Looking a bit ahead, seeing how we haven't gotten through the midterms yet, but ...

 
Not any race in particular, but still significant considering the results of previous elections--especially non-presidential elections.

 
And here's why Democrats in general and Stacy Abrams in particular shot themselves with their "Jim Crow 2.0" lies:

 
How about electing some who isn't a pensioner?

I know this is heresy but maybe even someone under 40.
Totally radical!
 
Let’s be honest. We no longer have elections. We have political auctions. Add to that, they are almost continuous.

Affluent candidates have a significant advantage. And money flows in. And it flows from affluent Americans, foreigners and from corporations. Dark money is big in American political auctions.

If you need proof - and you shouldn’t - just look at how house state and national campaigns are often reported, by money raised.
 
Affluent candidates have a significant advantage. And money flows in. And it flows from affluent Americans, foreigners and from corporations. Dark money is big in American political auctions.
Going by what the authors of Freakanomics learned when they looked into the question, above a certain floor money didn't make much of a difference and was more of an indicator of who donors thought would win.

And another piece of evidence of the likely coming Democratic shellacking:

 

Rasmussen has a paywall now. Without the methodology the result is worthless.
 
I appreciate your effort but I'm uncertain as to what the data is or how it was measured.

Not having read Freakanomics I can't respond to the reference.

Rasmussan's survey, it seems, has little to do with money in politics. Beyond that, in my previous post I was addressing US politics at large and money. I was not referring to a particular party.
 
Rasmussen has a paywall now. Without the methodology the result is worthless.
Rasmussen has a paywall on many--but not all--of their weekday articles. But I've paid, so I can access the same crosstabs as journalists use in their articles. For this poll: "The survey of 1,000 U.S. Likely Voters was conducted on May 23-24, 2022 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence." As for how good they are, the last time I checked FiveThirtyEight had given them a "B" rating, for what it's worth.

I appreciate your effort but I'm uncertain as to what the data is or how it was measured.

Not having read Freakanomics I can't respond to the reference.
The Freakanomics authors had serious trouble finding comparable data, but IIRC the end result was that doubling your spending gave you a one or two percent increase in the poll results. So you need to spend enough to get name recognition, but once you've accomplished that your marginal benefits drop off rapidly.

Rasmussan's survey, it seems, has little to do with money in politics. Beyond that, in my previous post I was addressing US politics at large and money. I was not referring to a particular party.
No, it was simply the latest Rasmussen poll that had to do with the coming elections. Which was why I worded the introduction as I did. And here's another, with slightly better news for Democrats:

 
And the latest Rasmussen generic vote question (weekly now, until the election). And last week's good news for Democrats mostly evaporated:

 
Since it's Friday ...

 
Another Friday:

 
And the pendulum swings back. We'll be fine, so long as the pendulum doesn't swing too widely.

 
And the RCP average has it at 3.4%. Of course, the Rasmussen poll is the only one filtering for Likely Voters, the rest are only filtering for Registered Voters.

Not so. FiveThirtyEight listed polls:

Rasmussen LV
McLaughlin LV
NewsNation RV
YouGov LV
Morning Consult RV
Echelon Insights RV ... 47D/45R
Echelon Insights LV ... 47D/46R (these are the same poll)
OnMessage LV

Since you mentioned yourself that Rassmussen is a B rated pollster, it's also worth noting that they lean 1.5% to the Republicans. That makes your 8% actually a 5%

RCP are a much inferior aggregator since they don't even try to account for poll quality or past lean.
 
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