Inuyasha said:I have always been a supporter of this idea. I believe everyone, including the children of the rich and powerful, should spend 18 months in the service of the country.
The education that one receives in the military is invaluable later on in life. It teaches responsibility, work ethic, sense of duty, good manners and it puts order into one's life. I believe it would do many things for everyone in society. I have seen many people who have been put on a positive path, myself included, because of their military training. It also helps to instill the true understanding of what it is to live in a democracy. You will spend the first 6 months living in a totally authoritarian state where you have few rights and no voice. It will make for less crime and more responsible action. You won't need recruiters on campus either.
ngdawg said:I'm more for the idea of serving in the Peace Corps....it's beneficial to both the server and the served, one would learn about other parts of the world's citizens and they're not being sent to kill or be killed.
Arch Enemy said:Yeah I like that idea.
lets put our youth into 10 weeks of teaching them how to kill on command, without passion for the person they're killing.
I was being sarcastic, I think that idea is intolerable and downright absurd.
If someone wants to jump in front of bullets, then that's what they want to do.. one shouldn't be forced to jump in front of bullets.
The least? What do you mean about that? I believe that killing someone is the most important thing you learn to do and how to deal with the situation.Inuyasha said:Learning to kill people is the least that you learn in basic traning. If you want to learn to kill just go down and take some classes with teenagers that live in the projects. 10 times more people are killed by violence in one year on the streets than have killed in the worst year of WWII.
It's very hard to talk to people who have never gone through the expeience of strict dicipiliary training. In the first weeks of training ones spends little time doing anything but learning personal resposiblity. Fire arms training does not take up the majority of time. it is about keeping order in the barracks, picking up after yourself, learning camaradeire, learning to how to and why to follow orders and lots of close order drill and PT. It has very little to do with killing and much more to do with survival. Learning to kill comes later, not in basic training.
Then why teach people how to more efficently kill someone else?On this board there seems to be a lot of folks talking about killing other folks. I am not advocating that. besides most of that is just talk. Killing people makes you violently ill and remains with you your whole life. If it doersn't you are probably abnormal and a danger to society.
Inuyasha said:I have always been a supporter of this idea. I believe everyone, including the children of the rich and powerful, should spend 18 months in the service of the country.
The education that one receives in the military is invaluable later on in life. It teaches responsibility, work ethic, sense of duty, good manners and it puts order into one's life. I believe it would do many things for everyone in society. I have seen many people who have been put on a positive path, myself included, because of their military training. It also helps to instill the true understanding of what it is to live in a democracy. You will spend the first 6 months living in a totally authoritarian state where you have few rights and no voice. It will make for less crime and more responsible action. You won't need recruiters on campus either.
Inuyasha said:Have you ever heard of Miyamoto Musashi?
Caine said:No, and what does this have to do with a forced servitude program in America?
Liberal and Conservativism has nothing to do self-discipline. We have an all volunteer military that is set in place to protect us so that we can be FREE. There are plenty of ways to learn self discipline, it starts in the HOME. Parents need to be more focused on teaching thier children self discipline rather than depending on the School system or Forced Government Servitude to do it for them.Inuyasha said:It has to do with self.discipline which this country both liberals and conservatives badly need. Above all the younger generation who have lived the good life without really earning it.
Okay, the draft is.. Serve (if your physically/mentally able) or be punished (jail) how is this not forced?This country has used the draft many times, that is not different from UMT. Is the draft forced servitude? Froced servitude my @SS.
Umm... What exactly are you trying to say?:shock:Any way to get out of obligation is all right I suppose.
Inuyasha said:It has to do with self.discipline which this country both liberals and conservatives badly need.
Inuyasha said:Above all the younger generation who have lived the good life without really earning it.
Inuyasha said:This country has used the draft many times, that is not different from UMT. Is the draft forced servitude?
Inuyasha said:Froced servitude my @SS. Any way to get out of obligation is all right I suppose.
Inuyasha said:It has to do with self.discipline which this country both liberals and conservatives badly need. Above all the younger generation who have lived the good life without really earning it.
This country has used the draft many times, that is not different from UMT. Is the draft forced servitude? Froced servitude my @SS. Any way to get out of obligation is all right I suppose.
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