Yup, and precisely why I find all these "Who gives a **** about my history or my ancestors, I never asked to be brought into this world" types so disgusting.
A couple of billion years worth of evolution and untold human cumulative social effort went into getting you here, and some whiny ungrateful mope who doesn't even want or appreciate the gift they've been given is the end result? Give me a freaking break. :roll:
The upwardly mobile rarely have an interest in history. Or science either for that matter. Every friend is measured in a "what can he do for me" context, politics is a means to an end, and they spend their free time collecting the things that make their world pretty. I think they also tend to be more social creatures.
We can wax philosophical on this, and I have, many times... But one thing's for sure, not everybody has an interest in history.
I wanna kick my ancestors in the nuts for causing me to read this thread.
I don't think it's so much an interest in history as much as it is an appreciation for how you got here and the fact that you made it. It sort of reminds of 1000 year old giant sequoias, if they could talk eh?
I don't think it's so much an interest in history as much as it is an appreciation for how you got here and the fact that you made it. It sort of reminds of 1000 year old giant sequoias, if they could talk eh?
The upwardly mobile rarely have an interest in history. Or science either for that matter. Every friend is measured in a "what can he do for me" context, politics is a means to an end, and they spend their free time collecting the things that make their world pretty. I think they also tend to be more social creatures.
We can wax philosophical on this, and I have, many times... But one thing's for sure, not everybody has an interest in history.
Oooh, the eevil rich! They're not as good as us middle-class folks!
Is there any subject in which you don't base self worth on group identity?
Identity is evolutionary; no one long exists without identity.
But the rich are every bit as upwardly mobile as anyone else, and in many cases, more so; how do you think they got rich?
The upwardly mobile, for the most part, have no interest in history; call it a personal observation.
You completely miss the point. I have no problem with group identity, though I would not describe it as evolutionary as much as random chance.
The problem, which you fail to see, is placing self worth in one's group identity. When one feels good about himself merely because one is in a particular group, one is lacking in real self worth and thus esteem. Basing one's personal value on "us vs. them" is a sure sign of an inferior scoundrel.
Call it pretending you have special value because you're middle class.
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