We Live In Strange Times

Women Who Identify As Men Not Routinely Offered Breast Cancer Screening [by the NHS in the UK]

Health providers are afraid that this might offend trans men since mammography is usually associated with women patients. Obviously, though, this puts these patients at risk of having cancer go undetected.

However, trans women are usually offered cervical screening even though they don't have a cervix.

Millions of words have been written, no doubt, about the contingencies that our physical bodies thrust upon us. Oh, the indignity of incarnation!

Regardless, biology will not be ignored.

I would say we live in confusing times...nobody knows who they are anymore...

Elvira said:

I would say we live in confusing times...nobody knows who they are anymore...

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Yeah, we're all just confused! :roll:

Elvira said:

I would say we live in confusing times...nobody knows who they are anymore...

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I wouldn't say that. I think a lot of people are certain of who they are, and society has moved in the direction of supporting people living their own way. The government should not get to decide matters of sexuality.

On the issue of the thread, just go ahead and offer the mammogram. Men can get breast cancer too.

rocket88 said:

I wouldn't say that. I think a lot of people are certain of who they are, and society has moved in the direction of supporting people living their own way. The government should not get to decide matters of sexuality.

On the issue of the thread, just go ahead and offer the mammogram. Men can get breast cancer too.

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Nope, that would not be good medicine. Breast cancer in biological males is too rare to justify routine screening while in biological women early detection provides a chance for a cure for what is otherwise a common and very deadly disease.

There's no getting around the biological differences.

LowDown said:

Nope, that would not be good medicine. Breast cancer in biological males is too rare to justify routine screening while in biological women early detection provides a chance for a cure for what is otherwise a common and very deadly disease.

There's no getting around the biological differences.

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If they are taking estrogen or other homrones they likely have increased their chance of getting breast cancer

Men With High Estrogen Levels Could Have Increased Breast Cancer Risk

LowDown said:

Women Who Identify As Men Not Routinely Offered Breast Cancer Screening [by the NHS in the UK]

Health providers are afraid that this might offend trans men since mammography is usually associated with women patients. Obviously, though, this puts these patients at risk of having cancer go undetected.

However, trans women are usually offered cervical screening even though they don't have a cervix.

Millions of words have been written, no doubt, about the contingencies that our physical bodies thrust upon us. Oh, the indignity of incarnation!

Regardless, biology will not be ignored.

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I'm so confused by all of this. I no longer know if a "trans man" was born anatomically male or not. Because of that I don't know whether a mamogram would be a medical necessity or a mental health exercise.

TheGoverness said:

Yeah, we're all just confused! :roll:

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Wasn't there a South Park episode on that?

Sampson Simpson said:

If they are taking estrogen or other homrones they likely have increased their chance of getting breast cancer

Men With High Estrogen Levels Could Have Increased Breast Cancer Risk

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Your point is well taken, but that would not be part of any routine screening policy.

Lutherf said:

Wasn't there a South Park episode on that?

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Probably.

LowDown said:

Women Who Identify As Men Not Routinely Offered Breast Cancer Screening [by the NHS in the UK]

Health providers are afraid that this might offend trans men since mammography is usually associated with women patients. Obviously, though, this puts these patients at risk of having cancer go undetected.

However, trans women are usually offered cervical screening even though they don't have a cervix.

Millions of words have been written, no doubt, about the contingencies that our physical bodies thrust upon us. Oh, the indignity of incarnation!

Regardless, biology will not be ignored.

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Nor should biology be ignored, but neither should the psychology, assuming I have the right field. The body and the mind are separate things that work in conjunction. For whatever reason, sometimes the mind develops as what we typically associate with the physical sex we call female. There is nothing wrong with that in and of itself, outside of the stresses and anxieties it imposes when ignored or surpressed. A person could be biologically male, and have a very effeminate body, yet still identify as male. They could be biologically female, have a very effeminate body and still identify as male. And all the opposites also hold true.

Any trans man who ignores that his body still has biological and medical needs associated with the biological female is a fool and an idiot. Getting regular screenings for things like breast cancer is simply a smart thing to do. If you are a biological male and breast cancer runs in your family, especially if any male ever developed it, getting regular screenings is simply the smart thing to do.

LowDown said:

Your point is well taken, but that would not be part of any routine screening policy.

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If the doctor is aware of it, then it should be, which is why it is important that your doctor be aware of everything about you that affects your body. Regardless of what trans you are, you are neither cis male, nor cis female. You have medical needs that are separate from both and that are separate from your trans opposite. To ignore that fact could be deadly.

rocket88 said:

I wouldn't say that. I think a lot of people are certain of who they are, and society has moved in the direction of supporting people living their own way. The government should not get to decide matters of sexuality.

On the issue of the thread, just go ahead and offer the mammogram. Men can get breast cancer too.

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It is sad that I did not now this fact until I saw an episode of ARCHER.

PleasantValley said:

It is sad that I did not now this fact until I saw an episode of ARCHER.

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Peter Criss from Kiss is a breast cancer survivor.