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Got a link to the magic new thingamabobber that accurately measures happiness?
Let me save you some time. In fields known as the "social sciences" they often must rely on what are called hypothetical constructs. Happiness is one of these. So are presidential favorability ratings, personality assessments, attitudes, beliefs, persuasions, and just about anything you'll ever find on a survey.
 
Both use the same Pew survey as their starting point:



Again, note the date of the study, at a period of time where liberals had been several years without power, and feeling quite frustrated as a result.

Got a link for that opinion?
 
see post 117

I see the usage of the same word both in your references, and her post as well.

Subjective.

So now is subjective happiness actually happiness, or just a willingness to cling to the belief of happiness??
 
I see the usage of the same word both in your references, and her post as well.

Subjective.

So now is subjective happiness actually happiness, or just a willingness to cling to the belief of happiness??

First you libs want some kinda link to backup her statement.... you get it, then you complain that it's subjective when it's a subjective emotion.

Heads you win, tails she loses.... libs.
 
Both use the same Pew survey as their starting point:

Read it again.... Pew did the survey, NYU did the study to find out why.

Again, note the date of the study, at a period of time where liberals had been several years without power, and feeling quite frustrated as a result.
 
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First you libs want some kinda link to backup her statement.... you get it, then you complain that it's subjective when it's a subjective emotion.

Heads you win, tails she loses.... libs.

Nope.. because the link does not back up her statement, and just because I have a "label" next to my name saying I am a lib does not mean that I wanted a link to back up her claims just because a few other libs requested such, nor does that mean that I fall under the generalization of all libs either

The point is the emotion is subjective, which you just stated, and as such can not be "measured"
 
I also explain why I disagree with a solid reason.
Really? I didn't see any proof or data. Here you go again claiming a "solid reason" -- but that's just your opinion.

Wow, this game is incredibly boring. When can we get back to discussing the issues?
 
Let me save you some time. In fields known as the "social sciences" they often must rely on what are called hypothetical constructs. Happiness is one of these.

Right. The methodology is to ask people how happy they are on a scale of 1 to 10. Utterly and completely subjective.

NOT!
 
Read it again.... Pew did the survey, NYU did the study to find out why.

I understand that. It is still using dated information, guesswork(you did read the study, right?), to explain something that may or may not be true any more.
 
Really? I didn't see any proof or data. Here you go again claiming a "solid reason" -- but that's just your opinion.

Wow, this game is incredibly boring. When can we get back to discussing the issues?

I gave a solid reason for my opinion. Now, since as you state you want to go back to discussion the issue, can you defend you statement that liberals love their country less than "regular people", or are you going to continue to duck away from that statement?
 
I understand that. It is still using dated information, guesswork(you did read the study, right?), to explain something that may or may not be true any more.

Head you win, tails I lose.... got it.
 
I provided "solid reasons" earlier in this thread, which you chose to ignore. Please review.
 

I provided "solid reasons" earlier in this thread, which you chose to ignore. Please review.

Really, you make this too easy. Those are not even remotely solid reasons. They are easily countered by "it's conservatives talking about seceding from the US". I have now offered as much backing for why liberals love their country more than conservatives, as you have to back your argument that it's the other way around.
 
I understand that. It is still using dated information, guesswork(you did read the study, right?), to explain something that may or may not be true any more.
Did you not read that it goes back to 1972? That's over 30 consecutive years of the same trend.
 
Taylor, are you happy?

If so, how happy?

Can an independent source confirm this happiness level?
 
If it's "too easy" then please refute, that's all i've been asking for this whole time is a debate sheesh!

It took me all of 1 minute to refute your so-called "solid reason":

The trend persists when libs are in power, out of power, several years in, several years out... frustration over party politics seems to have little to do with happiness:

http://pewresearch.org/assets/social/pdf/AreWeHappyYet.pdf
(see page 13)
 
Is this the liberals? I know that they don't like america as much as regular people.

This may be your opinion, but it isn't presented in proper terms. There is no qualifier to show that these are your opinions. By all outward appearances you are making a blanket statement about all liberals. Not only that, but you have failed to explain what you mean by "regular people." Are you talking in generalized terms or just what you consider "regular people"? I realize that you are getting annoyed with people scrutinizing this stuff, but you need to be more articulate in the future so as to avoid confusion and so that you don't come off as a partisan hack.
 
Taylor, are you happy?

If so, how happy?

Can an independent source confirm this happiness level?
If you have an alternative explanation for the data, please go ahead and make it. We don't bite (hard).
 
Everything in the world is opinion by your definition then.... everything.

How so? Do you think the word of a psychologist is somehow infallible?
 
If you have an alternative explanation for the data, please go ahead and make it. We don't bite (hard).

The data is unverifiable and there is no universally recognized standard for happiness, because it is a hypothetical construct(an idea or concept that has no physical properties). It doesn't lend itself to empirical data.
 
Everything in the world is opinion by your definition then.... everything.

No, much of the universe does lend itself to empirical data.
 
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