We are on a pace to having 700 Mass shooting in the U.S. this year

[Luckyone]

We are on a pace to having a record 700 mass shootings in the U.S. this year, which is double what we had in 2018. It also means that we will be averaging about 2 mass shootings per day.

Maine mass shootings the worst of 2023 as U.S. is on track for roughly 700 this year​

A gunman killed at least 18 people and wounded another 13 in Lewiston, Maine, on Wednesday night, targeting a restaurant and a bowling alley in the community of less than 40,000, the state’s Gov. Janet Mills said on Thursday.
Even if that death toll does not rise, the attack on Lewiston would be the deadliest this year and one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history, according to data maintained by the nonprofit Gun Violence Archive. The archive defines a mass shooting as an incident where at least four people are shot.

The U.S. has the 28th-highest rate of deaths from gun violence in the world: 4.31 deaths per 100,000 people in 2021. That was more than seven times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.57 deaths per 100,000 people — and about 340 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.013 deaths per 100,000.kill

What motivates a shooter to kill and are these killers mentally deranged? The answer is surprising:

Popular perception paints mass public shooters as “deranged” individuals who target random victims during the attack. This is not true in most cases.

One hundred and fifty four or 48 percent of mass public shootings were motivated by revenge against specific individuals. Thirty-seven percent of perpetrators were fueled by autogenic motivations. Lastly,15 percent of all mass public shootings were executed in the name of an extremist ideology. Most attacks were not random. Fifty-one percent of mass public shootings could be traced back to a precipitating incident in an offender’s life, such as the loss of employment (35%) and change in the relationship status (6%), among others (35%).

Interesting to note that 15% of the mass shooting were from an extreme ideology (mostly political or racially oriented) and 51% were due to a precipitating incident. We do know that in the last couple of years, many of those ideological mass killings were done in the name of Trump or extreme right ideologies.

The other problem that needs to be addressed is the gun issue.

Handguns are the weapon of choice in mass public shootings. At least one handgun was used in 75 percent of mass public shootings. Handguns are followed by semiautomatic rifles (24%), shotguns (21%) and automatic or “assault” rifles (10%). In addition to firearms, 15 percent of perpetrators obtained non-firearm weapons such as Improvised Explosive Devises (IEDs), knives, and blunt objects, among others.

We need more gun controls put into place and especially on semi-automatic guns 10% of all mass killings were done using semiautomatic guns (see link above for those statistics).

One thing for sure, something needs to be done to curb this trend. An average of 2 mass shootings per day is not something we can allow to continue and in looking at the increase this year (and the previous years), this is getting worse every year.

 

[daeler]

I want to preface my post with a qualifier, I am for new effective gun control methods. I am not for gun banning. I think America has an issue where guns are too easily accessible to the wrong people.

With that said, I hate the definition of mass shootings, When I think of a mass shooting I think of times like the bar shootings or the Las Vegas shooting or any of the school shootings. I hate that a mass shooting is anything involving one or more shooters with at least 4 victims. Plus there is not a widely accepted definition either. One of the victims could include the shooter, they could but don't always include murders. Using the panic inducing big numbers are not really anything but a way of using scare tactics to try to win points in an argument.

I just really wish they would use a definition that isn't pushing a political agenda.

 

[OrphanSlug]

"Thoughts and prayers" or something. That is really about how far this conversation will go in the modern political climate.

 

[commongood]

I want to preface my post with a qualifier, I am for new effective gun control methods. I am not for gun banning. I think America has an issue where guns are too easily accessible to the wrong people.

With that said, I hate the definition of mass shootings, When I think of a mass shooting I think of times like the bar shootings or the Las Vegas shooting or any of the school shootings. I hate that a mass shooting is anything involving one or more shooters with at least 4 victims. Plus there is not a widely accepted definition either. One of the victims could include the shooter, they could but don't always include murders. Using the panic inducing big numbers are not really anything but a way of using scare tactics to try to win points in an argument.

I just really wish they would use a definition that isn't pushing a political agenda.

How is it pushing a political agenda? It's for record keeping.

Does it really matter if 14 people were injured and 2 were killed? Or 4 killed and none injured?

 

[Str8shooter]

We are on a pace to having a record 700 mass shootings in the U.S. this year, which is double what we had in 2018. It also means that we will be averaging about 2 mass shootings per day.


The U.S. has the 28th-highest rate of deaths from gun violence in the world: 4.31 deaths per 100,000 people in 2021. That was more than seven times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.57 deaths per 100,000 people — and about 340 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.013 deaths per 100,000.kill

What motivates a shooter to kill and are these killers mentally deranged? The answer is surprising:


Interesting to note that 15% of the mass shooting were from an extreme ideology (mostly political or racially oriented) and 51% were due to a precipitating incident. We do know that in the last couple of years, many of those ideological mass killings were done in the name of Trump or extreme right ideologies.

The other problem that needs to be addressed is the gun issue.

Handguns are the weapon of choice in mass public shootings. At least one handgun was used in 75 percent of mass public shootings. Handguns are followed by semiautomatic rifles (24%), shotguns (21%) and automatic or “assault” rifles (10%). In addition to firearms, 15 percent of perpetrators obtained non-firearm weapons such as Improvised Explosive Devises (IEDs), knives, and blunt objects, among others.

We need more gun controls put into place and especially on semi-automatic guns 10% of all mass killings were done using semiautomatic guns (see link above for those statistics).

One thing for sure, something needs to be done to curb this trend. An average of 2 mass shootings per day is not something we can allow to continue and in looking at the increase this year (and the previous years), this is getting worse every year.

Where do the majority of these shootings happen? Oh, why are you leaving that out? It has become a part of culture for some. It is in the music, video games, ... Take the shooting out from the inner cities of America and what do you have?

 

[commongood]

Where do the majority of these shootings happen? Oh, why are you leaving that out? It has become a part of culture for some. It is in the music, video games, ... Take the shooting out from the inner cities of America and what do you have?

What's your point? That gun violence in certain areas is okay because of the people's "culture"?

 

[daeler]

How is it pushing a political agenda? It's for record keeping.

Does it really matter if 14 people were injured and 2 were killed? Or 4 killed and none injured?

Definitions matter, when most people think of a mass shooting you think of what just happened in Maine, or what happened in Las Vegas, you don't think of 1 gang member shooting at 3 gang members and getting shot in return, or shooting where criminals get shot by police. A drug deal gone wrong is not a mass shooting no matter how many get shot.

If you look through the list of what is considered a mass shooting how many do you think would actually be considered a mass shooting by most people? 10%? more? less?

 

[commongood]

Definitions matter, when most people think of a mass shooting you think of what just happened in Maine, or what happened in Las Vegas, you don't think of 1 gang member shooting at 3 gang members and getting shot in return, or shooting where criminals get shot by police. A drug deal gone wrong is not a mass shooting no matter how many get shot.

I disagree - see below.

If you look through the list of what is considered a mass shooting how many do you think would actually be considered a mass shooting by most people? 10%? more? less?

It doesn't matter. People who are killed and injured by gun violence are still people.
How it happened does change the fact that they have families, they may need to financially support others, they'll have massive hospital bills, they may be permanently disabled, they may have to have expensive health care and government financial support for the rest of their lives.

 

[daeler]

I disagree - see below.

It doesn't matter. People who are killed and injured by gun violence are still people.
How it happened does change the fact that they have families, they may need to financially support others, they'll have massive hospital bills, they may be permanently disabled, they may have to have expensive health care and government financial support for the rest of their lives.

Yes all of that is true and has nothing to do with what I am saying.

If you say there were 700 mass shootings in the US it sounds worse than saying there were 10 Mass shootings in the US right? The reason the definition matters is because they can use the bigger number for political commentary.

 

[Binary_Digit]

One thing for sure, something needs to be done to curb this trend.

Yep, and the party of the 2nd Amendment is the same party that keeps opposing increased support for mental health treatment. That's what refusing to treat the problem looks like.

 

[commongood]

Yes all of that is true and has nothing to do with what I am saying.

If you say there were 700 mass shootings in the US it sounds worse than saying there were 10 Mass shootings in the US right? The reason the definition matters is because they can use the bigger number for political commentary.

Yes, 700 "sounds" worse than 10 but using 10 doesn't erase the impact of what happened to the people who were killed and injured when one uses 700.

You're doing the same thing the 2A supporters do, nitpicking. I'm not sure there is anything you can do it about except complain in these threads. Have a good one.

 

[Artymoon]

I just really wish they would use a definition that isn't pushing a political agenda.

I agree. The desired effect is to have the populace believe that all of these shootings are by some crazed lunatic looking to take random people out. While that does happen, the majority of these shootings are not that. Keeping the people fearful is a desirable tool.

 

[daeler]

Yes, 700 "sounds" worse than 10 but using 10 doesn't erase the impact of what happened to the people who were killed and injured when one uses 700.

Still not actually addressing my comment.

You're doing the same thing the 2A supporters do, nitpicking. I'm not sure there is anything you can do it about except complain in these threads. Have a good one.

If your argument against something needs scare tactics then it isn't a good argument.

Thing is gun violence is on the rise and the scare tactics are not actually needed for the arguments to be effective.

 

[commongood]

I agree. The desired effect is to have the populace believe that all of these shootings are by some crazed lunatic looking to take random people out. While that does happen, the majority of these shootings are not that. Keeping the people fearful is a desirable tool.

Can innocent bystanders be injured or killed by criminal gun violence?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

We are on a pace to having a record 700 mass shootings in the U.S. this year, which is double what we had in 2018. It also means that we will be averaging about 2 mass shootings per day.


The U.S. has the 28th-highest rate of deaths from gun violence in the world: 4.31 deaths per 100,000 people in 2021. That was more than seven times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.57 deaths per 100,000 people — and about 340 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.013 deaths per 100,000.kill

What motivates a shooter to kill and are these killers mentally deranged? The answer is surprising:


Interesting to note that 15% of the mass shooting were from an extreme ideology (mostly political or racially oriented) and 51% were due to a precipitating incident. We do know that in the last couple of years, many of those ideological mass killings were done in the name of Trump or extreme right ideologies.

The other problem that needs to be addressed is the gun issue.

Handguns are the weapon of choice in mass public shootings. At least one handgun was used in 75 percent of mass public shootings. Handguns are followed by semiautomatic rifles (24%), shotguns (21%) and automatic or “assault” rifles (10%). In addition to firearms, 15 percent of perpetrators obtained non-firearm weapons such as Improvised Explosive Devises (IEDs), knives, and blunt objects, among others.

We need more gun controls put into place and especially on semi-automatic guns 10% of all mass killings were done using semiautomatic guns (see link above for those statistics).

One thing for sure, something needs to be done to curb this trend. An average of 2 mass shootings per day is not something we can allow to continue and in looking at the increase this year (and the previous years), this is getting worse every year.

I am sure that, with a little bit more effort, the US could easily top the "750" mark.

 

[daeler]

I am sure that, with a little bit more effort, the US could easily top the "750" mark.

sure, all they have to do is change the definition from 4 to 3. That would be effective.

 

[Noodlegawd]

We are on a pace to having a record 700 mass shootings in the U.S. this year, which is double what we had in 2018. It also means that we will be averaging about 2 mass shootings per day.


The U.S. has the 28th-highest rate of deaths from gun violence in the world: 4.31 deaths per 100,000 people in 2021. That was more than seven times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.57 deaths per 100,000 people — and about 340 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.013 deaths per 100,000.kill

What motivates a shooter to kill and are these killers mentally deranged? The answer is surprising:


Interesting to note that 15% of the mass shooting were from an extreme ideology (mostly political or racially oriented) and 51% were due to a precipitating incident. We do know that in the last couple of years, many of those ideological mass killings were done in the name of Trump or extreme right ideologies.

The other problem that needs to be addressed is the gun issue.

Handguns are the weapon of choice in mass public shootings. At least one handgun was used in 75 percent of mass public shootings. Handguns are followed by semiautomatic rifles (24%), shotguns (21%) and automatic or “assault” rifles (10%). In addition to firearms, 15 percent of perpetrators obtained non-firearm weapons such as Improvised Explosive Devises (IEDs), knives, and blunt objects, among others.

We need more gun controls put into place and especially on semi-automatic guns 10% of all mass killings were done using semiautomatic guns (see link above for those statistics).

One thing for sure, something needs to be done to curb this trend. An average of 2 mass shootings per day is not something we can allow to continue and in looking at the increase this year (and the previous years), this is getting worse every year.

So far this year, it's 608 incidents, with 635 killed.

As bad as it's getting (doubling in 5 years), relatively speaking it's not really that big a problem. 15 times as many people are killed by drunk drivers, yet that problem gets 1% of the media and political attention, if that.

It's never been harder to buy a gun in this country than it is now, but mass shootings have doubled in the last 5 years. So it's obviously not a "gun issue."

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

sure, all they have to do is change the definition from 4 to 3. That would be effective.

Or find some dodo who wants to "set a record" by being the first 750th mass killer in a single year. Out of over 338,000,000 people that shouldn't be all that hard to do.

 

[Eriech]

We are on a pace to having a record 700 mass shootings in the U.S. this year, which is double what we had in 2018. It also means that we will be averaging about 2 mass shootings per day.


The U.S. has the 28th-highest rate of deaths from gun violence in the world: 4.31 deaths per 100,000 people in 2021. That was more than seven times as high as the rate in Canada, which had 0.57 deaths per 100,000 people — and about 340 times higher than in the United Kingdom, which had 0.013 deaths per 100,000.kill

What motivates a shooter to kill and are these killers mentally deranged? The answer is surprising:


Interesting to note that 15% of the mass shooting were from an extreme ideology (mostly political or racially oriented) and 51% were due to a precipitating incident. We do know that in the last couple of years, many of those ideological mass killings were done in the name of Trump or extreme right ideologies.

The other problem that needs to be addressed is the gun issue.

Handguns are the weapon of choice in mass public shootings. At least one handgun was used in 75 percent of mass public shootings. Handguns are followed by semiautomatic rifles (24%), shotguns (21%) and automatic or “assault” rifles (10%). In addition to firearms, 15 percent of perpetrators obtained non-firearm weapons such as Improvised Explosive Devises (IEDs), knives, and blunt objects, among others.

We need more gun controls put into place and especially on semi-automatic guns 10% of all mass killings were done using semiautomatic guns (see link above for those statistics).

One thing for sure, something needs to be done to curb this trend. An average of 2 mass shootings per day is not something we can allow to continue and in looking at the increase this year (and the previous years), this is getting worse every year.

List of the many mass shootings in the name of Trump please.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

List of the many mass shootings in the name of Trump please.

Can I offer you a discount on a bulk purchase of

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cards?

 

[gboisjo]

Canada to the north had no mass shootings, why.

 

[gboisjo]

So far this year, it's 608 incidents, with 635 killed.

As bad as it's getting (doubling in 5 years), relatively speaking it's not really that big a problem. 15 times as many people are killed by drunk drivers, yet that problem gets 1% of the media and political attention, if that.

It's never been harder to buy a gun in this country than it is now, but mass shootings have doubled in the last 5 years. So it's obviously not a "gun issue."

Because so many of the shootings are in schools, duh.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Because so many of the shootings are in schools, duh.

1. So what? What's that have to do with my comment?
2. How many do you think are actually in schools?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Because so many of the shootings are in schools, duh.

Quite right, and evrewunknoz that there are no schools in Canada.

 

[Artymoon]

Can innocent bystanders be injured or killed by criminal gun violence?

Thank you for calling it criminal. And yes, they can. They can also be struck by lightning, win the lottery, etc.