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You know - I'm just 1/2 way through my World Civ Semester in school - and so far I've read about 17 separate accounts of battle or warfare being fought that are *new* to me from the last 600 years. These have been fought by/in : Great Britain, Scotland, Continental Europe, In Africa, Russia, South America and North America.
I don't EVER want to hear from anyone EVER again stupid crap like "Why do Americans LOVE war so much" and "Why do Americans love violence"
We don't - the WORLD does.
We are no different than everyone else it seems.
hrmph!
You know - I'm just 1/2 way through my World Civ Semester in school - and so far I've read about 17 separate accounts of battle or warfare being fought that are *new* to me from the last 600 years. These have been fought by/in : Great Britain, Scotland, Continental Europe, In Africa, Russia, South America and North America.
Don't forget all the civil wars as well.
One thing to mention: It is not that Americans love war so much - rather, the criticism is the reasons America, and all other nations, choose to go to war. It should not be for disengenuous reasons, or to cause personal profits.
that's a good point; America's wars tend to be pretty ideological.
That actually seems to be a very common thread in most wars. . . it's most assuredly not an 'American' thing.
Very few wars are waged by a country against another power for non-ideological purposes if you tally them all up. Ideological (politically) or religious.
The reason the wars of the past are viewed as different is because they involve different people and different times. The same Europeans who did that stuff aren't the same ones they are today. No one should take or be assigned blame for the sins of their father.
That actually seems to be a very common thread in most wars. . . it's most assuredly not an 'American' thing.
Very few wars are waged by a country against another power for non-ideological purposes if you tally them all up. Ideological (politically) or religious.
True, but wars are easier to sell if you can pass them off as ideological. It is difficult to recruit folks to risk their lives to fatten someone else's wallet.1600s in europe wars were fought for economic reasons for quite a while once the nation state began to develop to the point economic considerations could be made. Wars are still arguably for material consideration.
True this. Wars must be sold to the people.
That actually seems to be a very common thread in most wars. . . it's most assuredly not an 'American' thing.
Very few wars are waged by a country against another power for non-ideological purposes if you tally them all up. Ideological (politically) or religious.
Im still pretty concerted its the upper crusts that bring us to war. :shrug:
Actually it was started by the aristocracy, those in particular who wanted to liberalize the social rules. It got way out of hand quite quickly (once again, the elites failed to anticipate the unintended consequences). Citizens: A Chronicle of the French Revolution makes the case quite eloquently - in fact, the chronicle of the French Revolution is practically a script for the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia a little over a century later.The French Revolution (s) weren't stirred by the aristocracy. :shrug:
I was surprised at how much I *didn't* know about - civil or international . . . and I can expand that "new to me list" now - Pugachev's Rebellion and so forth (which wasn't too long ago, really).
One of my favorites was the "War of Jenkin's Ear".
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