That isnt his problem, that IS a problem. When I started out in law enforcement I made $15 an hour as a part time officer. That is with a bachelor's degree and paying my own way through LE academy.
Now Im supposed to believe that someone flipping burgers making that same wage is A-OK? I was making felony arrests making that money...but thats called paying your damn dues. All those people working warehouse jobs that paid their dues to make $15+ as supervisors paid their dues. Come on bro....cant you admit that labor has a value? If you are working a job that requires no skill then you shouldnt be rewarded for breezing through life. That type of loser mindset makes my blood boil.
Yea but your personal income tax would go through the roof then you would be at square one. Progs like yourself like shoveling money back and forth to pretend like they are doing something useful, when in reality they are just creating parasitic loss. Same thing goes with the car engine....the engine makes X horsepower...then when you introduce the transmission, drive shaft, axle, gears, tires, friction, etc you make a lot less horsepower. Parasitic loss....that is what happens when the government gets involved in ANYTHING. You are paying people to manage your money, so they are going to take some of that money to do the managing, turning your dollar into cents.
But you would probably like that because, as a socialist, and as Ive already said, you believe that all money is the governments money.
Aside from the benefits not calculated in to your "LE" enforcement employment (private school really paid off!), you are ignoring a basic, fundamental concept called....inflation (again with the thinking thingy!).
Am I the only person who sees the irony in conservatives arguing that we should increase welfare rather than to increase income from actually being productive?
Are conservatives the new progressive-liberals?
I had no benefits when I making $15 an hour...that came when I became full time and my salary doubled along with those sweet benefits (keep paying your taxes, home slice). Inflation is a good thing for socialists such as yourself....if you are $18 Trillion in Obama-debt, why wouldnt you want the dollar worth less? I wonder how much $18 Trillion would be worth back when we were still on the gold standard that socialists took us off of?
So increase it for the people actually being productive...not min wage burger flippers. Give the management a pay raise, keep the zit poppers at the bottom.
Id like to see us eliminate welfare AND the minimum wage. That would actually kick start the economy about as much as eliminating the corporate tax. Then people would actually have to try instead of breezing through life.
That isnt his problem, that IS a problem. When I started out in law enforcement I made $15 an hour as a part time officer. That is with a bachelor's degree and paying my own way through LE academy.
Now Im supposed to believe that someone flipping burgers making that same wage is A-OK? I was making felony arrests making that money...but thats called paying your damn dues. All those people working warehouse jobs that paid their dues to make $15+ as supervisors paid their dues. Come on bro....cant you admit that labor has a value? If you are working a job that requires no skill then you shouldnt be rewarded for breezing through life. That type of loser mindset makes my blood boil.
And you are accusing me of being a progressive/socialist, yet it's mostly conservatives and libertarians who are arguing that wages should be low and that we should have lots of welfare to make low wage workers comfortable in their poverty, at the expense of those of us who make decent wages.
Well, are you in favor of expanding the Earned Income Credit? In past posts, people such as Fenton, who 'liked' your post, called people who don't pay income taxes moochers. Now, are you'all in favor of giving more to the 'moochers?'The left loves to post Warren Buffett and parrot what he says as the way things should be done.
https://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren-buffett-minimum-wage/
well he just came out and made the same statement that other people have already acknowledged.
a $15 minimum wage will hurt middle income families.
His idea is to expand the EIC.
Wages should be low for certain jobs and full grown adults should not be working those jobs. Eliminating welfare would be good motivation for them.
Name ONE conservative who said we should have "lots a welfare"?? Im certainly not saying that. What ****ing RIDICULOUS assertion by you.
So, if McDonald's paid $15/hour, would you go work there? Breezing through life, right? Why wouldn't you?
It seems to me that you have a jealousy issue.
How about raising the minimum wage and also investing in education?
I'm sorry, I did not quite see when that was, exactly. You see, if you want to compare what you earned then with a $15 per sometime in the future (since the increase is for some cities, some employees, years into the future) we would need to know the date of when/then.I had no benefits when I making $15 an hour...that came when I became full time and my salary doubled along with those sweet benefits (keep paying your taxes, home slice).
Aside from not understanding inflation, or gold, I'm just amazed that a former city employee is whining about socialism....when for years (apparently) he was paid by one of the oldest forms of socialized employment.Inflation is a good thing for socialists such as yourself....if you are $18 Trillion in Obama-debt, why wouldnt you want the dollar worth less? I wonder how much $18 Trillion would be worth back when we were still on the gold standard that socialists took us off of?
That's perfect. Turn out graduates who can't get a job because employment is too expensive. But at least the edu-crats have a job.
No, because like I said, I make double that wage plus benefits.
Well, are you in favor of expanding the Earned Income Credit? In past posts, people such as Fenton, who 'liked' your post, called people who don't pay income taxes moochers. Now, are you'all in favor of giving more to the 'moochers?'
I'd rather raise the minimum wage, and have employers foot the bill for higher wages, instead of laying at the feet of taxpayers and subsidize employer low-pay.
Well, the EITC is is pretty big, and we have a number of cons approving and wanting it expanded, Cpwill for example.Wages should be low for certain jobs and full grown adults should not be working those jobs. Eliminating welfare would be good motivation for them.
Name ONE conservative who said we should have "lots a welfare"?? Im certainly not saying that. What ****ing RIDICULOUS assertion by you.
So increase it for the people actually being productive...not min wage burger flippers....
Employers wont food the bill for anything....YOU will pay their higher wages, just like YOU will pay their taxes for them.
Want higher wages...eliminate the corporate tax. Stop take, take, taking from businesses all the time and PRETENDING that is good for anything.
Great. So quit demanding other people live in poverty just so you can feel better about yourself.
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Want higher wages...eliminate the corporate tax. Stop take, take, taking from businesses all the time and PRETENDING that is good for anything.
That's better than not having ample edu-crat jobs!!! Look at what the alternative would be - no jobs because employment is too expensive plus no edu-crat jobs.
The idea that lower corporate taxes would increase wages is absolutely comical.
I dont DEMAND anyone does anything. That is what YOU are doing. YOU are DEMANDING that employers MUST pay more money out.
Its always funny when PROGS start up the hypocrisy train. CHOO CHOO
The only thing I believe in is that the people who put in the most effort and do the best job get rewarded by getting paid the most. PROGS dont believe in that because they pretend the world is fair. They think burger flippers should have a 2 story house with a picket fence, and the CEO should have the same....even though one has a GED and one has an MBA.
More effort = more results
Less effort = less results
Its not that hard to understand. I worked harder at improving my life than people who think McDonalds line cooking is a career. Salting fries is equal to running an international company in the mind of the socialist progressive.
I believe that for large non-S corps, taxes are paid on profits, so if a corp wanted lower taxes, they could, and I know this sounds cra-cra, raise their wages.Want higher wages...eliminate the corporate tax. Stop take, take, taking from businesses all the time and PRETENDING that is good for anything.
I dont DEMAND anyone does anything. That is what YOU are doing. YOU are DEMANDING that employers MUST pay more money out.
Its always funny when PROGS start up the hypocrisy train. CHOO CHOO
The only thing I believe in is that the people who put in the most effort and do the best job get rewarded by getting paid the most. PROGS dont believe in that because they pretend the world is fair. They think burger flippers should have a 2 story house with a picket fence, and the CEO should have the same....even though one has a GED and one has an MBA.
More effort = more results
Less effort = less results
Its not that hard to understand. I worked harder at improving my life than people who think McDonalds line cooking is a career. Salting fries is equal to running an international company in the mind of the socialist progressive.
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