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[W:517] Sexual Hypocrisy

CLAX1911 said:
I don't think he said pop culture was the entire problem I think he was saying it was adding to the problem rather than subtracting from it
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From the opening post, his words

Pop Culture is Pornography

Pop Culture is Pornography Promoted and Approved by Sexual Hypocrisy
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I think he is using objectification of women as an excuse to complain about a culture he does that does not agree with his religious fanaticism.

I would say that this is just his usual dishonest approach to complaining about something while giving himself the ability to deny he is doing so.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I don't think he said pop culture was the entire problem I think he was saying it was adding to the problem rather than subtracting from it
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This guy is famous for telling others what they are saying and for saying nothing of his own.
And he sees religions fanaticism everywhere:

 


What is the message of this iconic pop-cultural image?​
 
kitsune said:
This is the problem with Heteros. It's sex sex sex 24/7. It's all they frigging think about. There ARE other things to think about, but you'd never know it living in a Hetero society.
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Um, I can only speak for myself, but as a person afflicted with the big gay, I think about sex a lot. I'm sure that goes for most of my LGBT brethren. We all have sex drives, after all.
 
Angel said:
This guy is famous for telling others what they are saying and for saying nothing of his own.
And he sees religions fanaticism everywhere:
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There is absolutely no reason to pick out pop culture from any of the other cultures that also objectify. You are using women's objectification to hide your true intent of objecting to culture that does not agree with your own fanaticism.

A typically dishonest approach by you.
 
Dunning-Kruger and Sexual Objectification

 
kitsune said:
This is the problem with Heteros. It's sex sex sex 24/7. It's all they frigging think about. There ARE other things to think about, but you'd never know it living in a Hetero society.
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It’s more complex than that. So called heterosexual males ( a categorisation we should remember has only been used for just over a century) demonstrate a peculiar fascination for the details of same sex practices, especially of the male/male kind. They invariably want to know ‘Who plays the woman, and who plays the man?” When in the real world numerous surveys of gay males tell us a high percentate don’t even practice penentrative intercourse. Then we have this weird idea many straight males have that effeminte men are always passive and butch gays are always active. As a 73 year old gay male I can assure you life, especially in the bedroom, is full of surprises.
On the other hand I don’t think we should be accusing straight males of thinking about sex, sex, sex 24/7 when many gay males are just as obsessed.
 

Iconic cognitive dissonance from the Sixties​
 

Baby Boomer alter ego flanked by sexual objects​
 

Ursula Andress as "Honey Ryder" in Dr. No​
 
The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue​

Just around the time the "Bond Girls" were introduced into American culture, Sports Illustrated first published its annual "Swimsuit Issue."

Check out the gallery of images from Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issues here:
Swimsuit 2018 Archive | SI.com

As you peruse the gallery, keep in mind that ours is professedly a culture opposed on principle to the sexual objectification of women.


For members who are unfamiliar with the cultural phenomenon called the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue:
Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue - Wikipedia
 
1943



The "pin up girl" who helped win World War 2​
 
TheGoverness said:
Um, I can only speak for myself, but as a person afflicted with the big gay, I think about sex a lot. I'm sure that goes for most of my LGBT brethren. We all have sex drives, after all.
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A lot of that has to do with, well, age. You're still quite young. That will start to subside once you hit 30 or 40.
 
Topic Mnemonic​

 
Vargas Girls for Sealy and Jergens in 1940s



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The Vargas Girls

"Glorifying the American Girl"?

(as connoisseurs of the art of Alberto Vargas proclaim)

Or "pornography"?

(as Andrea Dworkin declaims)


Or—

and this is only for the deepest thought—

BOTH?

Both a glorification of American femininity AND pornography?

What do you see?

What do you think?​
 

My wife. a feminine and strong woman, self confident, beautiful, collects signed Vargas prints, etchings and so forth preferring series 1. Also signed prints, drawings and by Louis Icart. Both superb art deco illustrators, and neither beyond moderate expense, often in the $350-3,500 each in galleries, far less in estate sales. She also collects and resells art deco costume jewelry, haunting estate and tag sales in pursuit of the same. A hobby that nets her more than 6 figures annually, and a truck load of jewelry for herself and gifts. Beautiful work from both artists worthy of greater appreciation. Michael Angelo's David has a relatively small penis, the Greek ideal for classical statuary. Angelo was believed to have been a bisexual pedophile. Is his statue of David any less glorious? Or the nudity depicted on the Sistine Chapel ceiling?

All very subjective. However the assumption that pornography is and must be a negative, is absurd. Sex is like breathing, a necessary human function for health, and emotional fulfillment, physical sensuality and sexuality a gift from the gods whether or not one believes in gods or a god. Dworkin looks like she hates herself and her body. Her problem. Don't impose it on others.
 
OldFatGuy said:
...physical sensuality and sexuality a gift from the gods whether or not one believes in gods or a god....
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A connoisseur of babka and feminine beauty -- a man after my own heart!
 
Angel said:
A connoisseur of babka and feminine beauty -- a man after my own heart!
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I'm a gourmand, not a gourmet. For both, however I value my life, and stick by just one for the latter. Still nothing wrong with looking, light flirting and compliments, under her watchful eyes. I tell every very young girl how pretty they look in pink. During the late 1800's through the 1930's, pink was considered a masculine color for reserved for button down shirts.

Just got back from TJ's with a Brooklyn Chocolate Bobka.
 
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