Surely there are cartoons on that can keep you occupied while the grownups discuss grownup things.
The timing of the release of this is suspect at best. What is this 'breaking news' telling us? Not anything we didn't know.
I like how they are calling it an 'inquiry' and how it was 'combined' with Mueller's investigation. Soft sell for something else we also knew, Trump WAS the target of an investigation and Mueller lied about it.
Dont' take this as defending Trump, because I'm not. The intention behind the media putting this out at this time is obvious, and I'm surprised so many are falling for it.
Your question is answered by merely reading the first paragraph of the Times article:What is the basis for the FBI to open such an investigation? Trump's skepticism of their and other agencies claim that Russia screwed with the election?
The thought that you still cling to the fantasy that Trump is being persecuted falsely and not finally come around and realize that there are legitimate concerns about his loyalty to this country, is concerning itself.WASHINGTON — In the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.
Surely you have a 3D model of Trump's ass to give yourself a place to rest your nose.
Your question is answered by merely reading the first paragraph of the Times article:
The thought that you still cling to the fantasy that Trump is being persecuted falsely and not finally come around and realize that there are legitimate concerns about his loyalty to this country, is concerning itself.
So what? That doesnt put him in a position to know anything about what is going on in the current administration. Mattis and Kelley have been there from the start. Are you claiming that these two men know that Trump is selling out the US to the Russians and have kept quiet about it?
If they had any proof Trump was a Russian asset, or real information that pointed that way and kept that secret because the 'timing' wasn't right or the investigation wasn't complete, they are being derelict in not releasing that information and arresting Trump immediately. President or not, that's exactly what should happen if that is true.
Red:
That remark doesn't even address whether Trump be a Russian asset.
It seems that the FBI opened up an investigation into Donald Trump and possible collusion with Russia out of concerns that this could be a security concern for the U.S.
F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/fbi-trump-russia-inquiry.html
But it sounded like she did.
Its her craft.
A. We didn't know that Swampy was being investigated by the FBI.
B. What did Mueller lie about? He hasn't said anything at all. Are you confusing Mueller with Comey, who told the Congress that there were no FBI investigations of Trump? Well, according to the Times article, the FBI counterintelligence investigation was started AFTER Comey was fired.
No, there is no conspiracy here with timing. The house of cards is merely collapsing, little by little.
You can't argue two opposite positions. You can't say that without the investigation being complete, the FBI should arrest the president -- and also argue, as you have done in other posts, that there is a witch hunt against Trump; it's the deep-state out to get him; etc.
No, for law enforcement to charge a president with a crime, they better have all the ducks in a row. Their evidence must be ironclad and have no holes. They are doing EXACTLY what they should -- collecting all the evidence and presenting it to the Special Prosecutor, who is charged with investigating any Russian interference in 2016.
Exactly. If there is any evidence at all that Trump is an asset for a hostile power it needs to be made known immediately. That no such evidence has materialized shows that it either doesnt exist or the investigators are agents of the same foreign power.
Wait, are the kids still crying about Comey being fired? Even though it's already been shown that there was no wrong doing when he did so?
Well, that's the desperation of left and to an extent, this who idiotic "resist" group as well.
I'll be here waiting to see if they can actually prove anything this time around. Though I'm not going to hold my breath on this one either.
I can, have and will critique Putin on multiple fronts. So much for your dumb theory.
And if there is any evidence and they are holding back for whatever reason, that shows they care nothing for the US, but for their own agendas. Makes them as guilty as anyone else.
And what did this investigation uncover?
“Two things you want to look for there,” Fitzpatrick explained. “I haven’t seen the New York Times story yet. But there are assessments and preliminary inquiries, which have limited scope and full field investigations. That’s the first thing. The second thing is, any time an investigation is opened on an elected official, member of the media, member of the clergy, they are put in a sort of a separate category called SINS, sensitive investigations that require the highest level of approval.”
“In this case, it would have been, in all likelihood, the deputy director at the time, Andy McCabe and requires coordination with the DOJ and the deputy attorney general, at which point it would have been Rod Rosenstein,” he continued. “So it sort of raises more questions.”
You're not making any sense. There is plenty of evidence just in the public record, much of it available even at that time. Some is even listed in the article.
- Trump and his campaigns many, abnormal ties to Russians
- Trump and his campaigns hiding/obfuscating their ties to Russians
- Trump asking Russia to get Hillary's emails
- refusal to criticize Putin (ever), while being highly critical of nearly anyone/everyone else
- Republican platform softened in a way that benefited Russia
- Dossier
- Four Trump associates were already under active investigation for ties to Russia
- Russia was actively working to help Trump win he election, in the U.S.
- knowledge of how Russia operates (historically and present day)
- Trump - I fired Comey because of the Russia investigation
- Trump inexplicable invites Russians to a high-five in the Oval Office after the election, no U.S. reporters.
- Trump tells the Russians in the high-five meeting he eased pressure on the Russia investigation by firing the nut-job FBI director
You mean that no additional information that resulted from the ongoing investigation? They keep that secret unless they indict. They cannot indict Trump. What's your solution there, to pull a James Comey and blab to the press about it?
In contrast, what we have NOT seen is any evidence of, is that "additional evidence" will cause Trump supporters to change their public support for Trump.
The article isn't even saying that. It's that they were concerned about his behaviour.
And That isn't secret. We can look at 2017 at the same things the FBI looked at.
So what was it that caused the FBI such concern? The firing of Comey? Trumps doubt that Russia tried to interfere with the election?
Red:
LOL...To whom? LOL
Exactly. If there is any evidence at all that Trump is an asset for a hostile power it needs to be made known immediately. That no such evidence has materialized shows that it either doesnt exist or the investigators are agents of the same foreign power.
Trump always wanted to be first and foremost among Presidents in something significant. Now he is: first President ever to be investigated as secret agent for an adversarial foreign power.
Her target demographic.
Who will believe her to keep the neurochemicals flowing.
Which is the explanation why people continue to follow leaders everyone else knows are no good.
Following is rewarded. Admitting to yourself that your chosen leader is no good means those rewards end. And are replaced by anxiety chemicals. Stemming from loss of confidence in their ability to choose a leader. Will the next one betray them too?
IMO, modern conservatism is based on this phenomenon. The human resistance to admitting they have been fooled.
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