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[W:381:2733***]Darwinism Descending

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Darwinism: Science or Dogma?

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David Berlinski


Stephen Meyer


Jonathan Wells


Is Darwinism science or scientific dogma?

David Berlinski, Stephen Meyer, and Jonathan Wells argue in the videos posted above, and argue persuasively, that it is dogma.

What do you think of their arguments?

Do you have a counterargument?

Or do you believe in Darwinism as a matter of scientific faith?

Members are invited to think critically about the prevailing view of Life on Earth

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Angel said:
Darwinism: Science or Dogma?

oKPDNXb.jpg


David Berlinski


Stephen Meyer


Jonathan Wells


Is Darwinism science or scientific dogma?

David Berlinski, Stephen Meyer, and Jonathan Wells argue in the videos posted above, and argue persuasively, that it is dogma.

What do you think of their arguments?

Do you have a counterargument?

Or do you believe in Darwinism as a matter of scientific faith?

Members are invited to think critically about the prevailing view of Life on Earth

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It's always fun to watch someone spazzdance their way through justifications of 'intelligent' design.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
It's always fun to watch someone spazzdance their way through justifications of 'intelligent' design.
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Did you need to quote the entire Op right below the OP 3 minutes after the thread was started in order to post your silly zinger?
Have some decorum, man!
 
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Decorum is what Eve did to the apples isn't it? Asking for a friend. As for the OP, there's a certain type of Christianist that describes evolution as "Darwinism".:roll:
 
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Angel said:
Did you need to quote the entire Op right below the OP 3 minutes after the thread was started in order to post your silly zinger?
Have some decorum, man!
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Why would you cry about decorum when you don't even come in under a country mile of honestly addressing why intelligent design is intellectually bankrupt bull****?
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Decorum is what Eve did to the apples isn't it? Asking for a friend. As for the OP, there's a certain type of Christianist that describes evolution as "Darwinism".:roll:
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The OP is about Darwinism, not evolution. Had you watched any one of the videos instead of rushing to post your animus toward Christianity, you would have understood this.
Get serious, man.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
Why would you cry about decorum when you don't even come in under a country mile of honestly addressing why intelligent design is intellectually bankrupt bull****?
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Find some decorum man! You're wasting DP bandwidth with your nonsense.
Watch a video.
Answer the OP questions.
Engage.
And find some decorum.
 
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Angel said:
The OP is about Darwinism, not evolution. Had you watched any one of the videos instead of rushing to post your animus toward Christianity, you would have understood this.
Get serious, man.
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What do YOU believe "Darwinism" is? For what is Charles Darwin famous?
 
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Manc Skipper said:
What do YOU believe "Darwinism" is? For what is Charles Darwin famous?
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Watch a video. Answer one of the OP questions. Stop wasting my time and DP bandwidth with your nonsense.
 
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Angel said:
Watch a video. Answer one of the OP questions. Stop wasting my time and DP bandwidth with your nonsense.
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I have neither the time to waste, nor the inclination to watch dubiously packaged bull****. Explain by yourself. Why are you pushing this dross at an unsuspecting membership? What doe "Darwinism" mean to you?
 
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Angel said:
Darwinism: Science or Dogma?

oKPDNXb.jpg


David Berlinski


Stephen Meyer


Jonathan Wells


Is Darwinism science or scientific dogma?

David Berlinski, Stephen Meyer, and Jonathan Wells argue in the videos posted above, and argue persuasively, that it is dogma.

What do you think of their arguments?

Do you have a counterargument?

Or do you believe in Darwinism as a matter of scientific faith?

Members are invited to think critically about the prevailing view of Life on Earth

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There is no such thing as Darwinism, it is a made up term. But there is science, and it had proven without a doubt that Evolution is the correct way we came about.
 
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Definition of Darwinism
1 : a theory of the origin and perpetuation of new species of animals and plants that offspring of a given organism vary, that natural selection favors the survival of some of these variations over others, that new species have arisen and may continue to arise by these processes, and that widely divergent groups of plants and animals have arisen from the same ancestors — compare evolution 1, neo-darwinism
2 : a theory that inherent dynamic forces allow only the fittest persons or organizations to prosper in a competitive environment or situation economic Darwinism — compare social darwinism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Darwinism
 
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Casper said:
There is no such thing as Darwinism, it is a made up term. But there is science, and it had proven without a doubt that Evolution is the correct way we came about.
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Okay. So you believe in Darwinism as a matter of scientific faith, although you don't appear to know that Darwinism exists -- that's the essence of faith, isn't it?


Namaste
 
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The fact that we have witnessed evolution in the laboratory informs that the theory has been proven and should no longer be...called a theory.

Therefore the word Darwin+ism is unnecessary.
 
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Pedestrian said:
The fact that we have witnessed evolution in the laboratory informs that the theory has been proven and should no longer be...called a theory.

Therefore the word Darwin+ism is unnecessary.
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You have "witnessed evolution in the laboratory"? Please do elaborate.
And I'm not sure what branch of science you work in, but theories are always theories in the tradition of science coming out of the 17th century.
 
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Chew on this for a while:

What is meant by "The Cambrian Explosion" and how does it challenge Darwinist Dogma?
 
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Quag said:
Observed Instances of Speciation
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Essay:Observed_instances_of_speciation
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I can't open your first link. Your second is an essay by someone calling himself Palaeonictis. You like facts, right? Well, the fact is that science has failed to produce in a laboratory experiment a new species through random mutation and selection for survival, or even through computer modelling without a great deal of manipulation and fudging. Why don't you watch the Berlinski video in the OP. If not, I'm not wasting any more of my time checking out ragtag links purporting to show what after 150 years has not materialized in science.
Watch Berlinski. I'll be glad to discuss his arguments with you.
 
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Angel said:
I can't open your first link. Your second is an essay by someone calling himself Palaeonictis. You like facts, right? Well, the fact is that science has failed to produce in a laboratory experiment a new species through random mutation and selection for survival, or even through computer modelling without a great deal of manipulation and fudging. Why don't you watch the Berlinski video in the OP. If not, I'm not wasting any more of my time checking out ragtag links purporting to show what after 150 years has not materialized in science.
Watch Berlinski. I'll be glad to discuss his arguments with you.
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Actually they have which is what the links show just Google if you dotn liek my links
https://www.google.ca/search?ei=c0g...19k1j0i22i30i19k1j33i22i29i30k1.0.EcW9hD8kN2g
 
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Angel said:
Is Darwinism science or scientific dogma?
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It's science.


David Berlinski, Stephen Meyer, and Jonathan Wells argue in the videos posted above, and argue persuasively, that it is dogma.
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You really ought to stop with the videos, and learn how to construct arguments in your own words.


What do you think of their arguments? Do you have a counterargument?
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Intelligent design is not science. It's unfalsifiable and untestable bull**** pseudo-science.

The "Intelligent Design" movement has mostly rehashed the same arguments for decades, even though they've been conclusively disproven. ID is incapable of making predictions. ID doesn't explain why isolating species in two different environments results in divergence in speciation. ID doesn't explain why one genetic community is more susceptible to sickle cell anemia than another, or why some genetic communities are lactose tolerant while others are not. ID does not explain how an experiment on e.coli in a lab shows a population adapting to its environment (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14094-bacteria-make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab/).

In other words, a belief in Intelligent Design is not scientific and, well... not intelligent.


Or do you believe in Darwinism as a matter of scientific faith?
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I believe in evolution and natural selection for the same reason I believe in quantum mechanics, conservation laws, gravity, galaxies, the efficacy of penicillin, and so many other scientific theories and laws -- because it is conclusively supported by the evidence.
 
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Quag said:
Actually they have which is what the links show just Google if you dotn liek my links
https://www.google.ca/search?ei=c0g...19k1j0i22i30i19k1j33i22i29i30k1.0.EcW9hD8kN2g
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Here's one of the Google links. Show me where it says that a new species has been produced experimentally.
If you can't (and you can't), then watch the Berlinski video and we can discuss that.
https://www.sas.rochester.edu/bio/p..._publications/Fry_speciation_expevol_2009.pdf
 
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