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[W:378] Palestinian death toll in Gaza surpasses 25,000 while Israel announces the death of another hostage

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Palestinian death toll in Gaza surpasses 25,000 while Israel announces the death of another hostage

The Gaza Health Ministry does not differentiate between civilians and combatants in its death toll but states that around two-thirds of those killed were women and minors.
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RAFAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — The Palestinian death toll from the war between Israel and Hamas has soared past 25,000, the Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip said Sunday, while Israel announced the death of another hostage and appeared far from achieving its goals of freeing more than 100 others and crushing the militant group.

The war has divided Israelis while the offensive threatens to ignite a wider conflict involving Iran-backed groups in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen that support the Palestinians.The deaths, destruction and displacement from the war are without precedent in the decades-old Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he stressed in his conversation with U.S. President Joe Biden on Friday that he rejects Hamas demands for a cease-fire, Israeli forces’ withdrawal and the release of Palestinians held by Israel in exchange for the remaining hostages. He said that agreeing means another devastating Hamas attack “would only be a matter of time.”

Netanyahu also has rejected calls from U.S, its closest ally, for postwar plans that would include a path to Palestinian statehood. U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres called the refusal to accept a two-state solution unacceptable.
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BeBe is doing the bidding of the conservatives who want to eliminate the Palestinians because Yahway gave them the Promised Land. BeBe is also a crook who could wind up in prison if he is out of office.

The Jews learned a lot from Hitler & now they are pursuing Holocaust-2 in Gaza & the West Bank. Now they are assuring the all those hostages are going to die.
 
The Palestinians really kicked over the hornet's nest by committing a massacre on October 7th chopping up babies and raping then murdering women.

I support Israel in wiping out Hamas and all of their supporters.
 
If they learned from Hitler all the Palestinians would already be dead.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The Palestinians really kicked over the hornet's nest by committing a massacre on October 7th chopping up babies and raping then murdering women.

I support Israel in wiping out Hamas and all of their supporters.
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Jawohl mein Fuehrer!
 
Is Hamas ready to surrender unconditionally?
Best I can tell, Hamas only wants a temporary cease fire.
 
Of course, one should never accept Hamas statistics without due skepticism.

But relatively neutral other sources do agree that thousands of civilians have died.

The IDF have been brutal in their response to the October 7 pogrom.

Those "neutral" sources predict that the current onslaught by the IDF will only engender more hatred toward Israel.

The United States has to have a very "muscular" talk with Prime Minister Netanyahu.

The suffering of Gazan civilians is simply horrific.
 
OP takes HAMAS' word as authoritative?

... maybe a grain of salt is justified, there, though it's certainly been many. HAMAS' strategy, after all, is to maximize civilian casualties precisely in order to manipulate people like the OP.
 

The greatest likelihood is that Israel will have a new government after the war. Right now the focus should be destroying Hamas.
 

The Joos must be a pretty terrible student. They have probably killed less "civilians" than Obama did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Other than babies how does the Hamas health agency know who is a civilian versus a coward fighter in no uniform?
 
JacksinPA said:
Four million Africans didn't swim here for the chance to work in cotton fields 14 hours/day.
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No, they were sold to slavers by their rivals in Africa.
 
washunut said:
The Joos must be a pretty terrible student. They have probably killed less "civilians" than Obama did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Other than babies how does the Hamas health agency know who is a civilian versus a coward fighter in no uniform?
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They do not. With Hamas it's all about hype and bullshit.
 
JacksinPA said:
The Jews learned a lot from Hitler & now they are pursuing Holocaust-2 in Gaza & the West Bank. Now they are assuring the all those hostages are going to die.
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Is there any issue you libs discuss honestly? Any issue at all? The idea that what Israel is doing is tantamount to the Holocaust is nothing but the latest in a long, long list of liberal Big Lies
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The Palestinians really kicked over the hornet's nest by committing a massacre on October 7th chopping up babies and raping then murdering women.

I support Israel in wiping out Hamas and all of their supporters.
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I agree. People die in wars, surprise, surprise!

Hamas is only part of the problem. Islam as a whole - not just Hamas or Hezbollah - is the problem. We are in a war of civilizations and Western countries just haven't admitted it yet.
 

This is just plain offensive.

You DO NOT compare what happened in WWII to what is happening in Gaza. The two events are not even remotely the same.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The Palestinians really kicked over the hornet's nest by committing a massacre on October 7th chopping up babies and raping then murdering women.

I support Israel in wiping out Hamas and all of their supporters.
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Look, I agree.

The more details that come out from October 7th, the more I wish it was as simple as being able to do just that.

But guess what?

It’s not that simple.

I am firmly on the side of Israel and its people.

And without giving Hamas or its supporters any sympathy, I’m sorry, if we claim the mantle of the civilized world, I don’t support the Israeli government.

Killing overwhelmingly innocent people in pursuit of vengeance and justice, cutting off water, food and medical supplies to overwhelming innocent people in pursuit of vengeance and justice is not right and it’s never going to be right.

This war is being conducted with less than zero regard for innocent people.

It’s a shitty situation and I wish it was a simple thing of save all the hostages and slaughter every single Hamas member, but it’s not and we cannot lose our humanity to such an extent that believing that it’s wrong to cut off food and water to children and having an issue with the collateral damage the bombing has incurred to the extent that has happened is an attack on Israel.
 


The Gaza Health ministry says...


Annnnnnd stopped reading.
 

From three weeks ago — drone footage of Beit Lahia in northern Gaza:



Drone footage of the Al-Zahra neighborhood seven after seven weeks of war:

 
Ganondagan said:
I agree. People die in wars, surprise, surprise!

Hamas is only part of the problem. Islam as a whole - not just Hamas or Hezbollah - is the problem. We are in a war of civilizations and Western countries just haven't admitted it yet.
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There are about 2B Muslims in the world and the ones causing the most problems the Shi'a's in Iran.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The Palestinians really kicked over the hornet's nest by committing a massacre on October 7th chopping up babies and raping then murdering women.

I support Israel in wiping out Hamas and all of their supporters.
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It's not hornets.

The people who control the government of Israel are making choices that they know will kill children.
 
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