I can't imagine why the FBI would conduct surveillance on George Papadopoulos and Carter Page after an Australian diplomat came forward and told the FBI that Papadopoulos had told him about a Russian offer to help the Trump campaign by releasing thousands of hacked Democratic emails.
And yes, the FBI obtained a court-approved warrant to wiretap Mr. Page, who had contacts with Russian intelligence. Mr. Page was not affiliated with the campaign when the FBI sought the secret wiretap. Thus, any idea that this was "illegal spying" is nonsense. It was standard procedure and a court ordered warrant was legally obtained.
And yet you cannot name a single crime the dems have committed.
Fun!
Um, yeah. Courts ordering wiretaps is EXACTLY like slavery. How could I have been so foolish to think otherwise?
How exquisitely delusional. The investigation was fully legal and the surveillance was court-ordered.
And what was the committed crime that was being investigated?
The legality of the approval is not in question.
The question is whether or not the lying Dirty Cops used lies to deceive to get the legal approval from the hapless judge.
I wonder if the "hapless judge" is at all upset that he was used by the Dirty Cops to work their mischief...
You don't need a committed crime in order to justify and investgiation. Only probable cause.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Here's a thought: Don't say you have insider information from the Kremlin regarding Russian cyber-espionage operations, and the FBI won't take an interest in your activities.
If we switched out "Trump" with "Clinton" and "Russian" with "Iran", this wouldn't be a conversation.
The FBI never violated anyways civil rights in their surveillance efforts, and they further had established probable cause for the FISA warrant, which was done months after the subject in question was gone from the campaign.
Actually. for Trumpkins, there has only ever been one question: what can I say to excuse the major disaster that is Donald Trump. It all comes back to that in the end.
Did the FBI lie to the FISA court in the Gotti case too like they did on Carter page? Comey was playing loose with the rules and it’s about to burn him. The FBI was spying on the Trump campaign no matter what semantic game you want to play.How exquisitely delusional. The investigation was fully legal and the surveillance was court-ordered.
What is the distinction(s) that differentiates the two activities?
What was the probable cause?
Did the FBI lie to the FISA court in the Gotti case too like they did on Carter page? Comey was playing loose with the rules and it’s about to burn him. The FBI was spying on the Trump campaign no matter what semantic game you want to play.
I can't imagine why the FBI would conduct surveillance on George Papadopoulos and Carter Page after an Australian diplomat came forward and told the FBI that Papadopoulos had told him about a Russian offer to help the Trump campaign by releasing thousands of hacked Democratic emails.
And yes, the FBI obtained a court-approved warrant to wiretap Mr. Page, who had contacts with Russian intelligence. Mr. Page was not affiliated with the campaign when the FBI sought the secret wiretap. Thus, any idea that this was "illegal spying" is nonsense. It was standard procedure and a court ordered warrant was legally obtained.
Yawn. Asked and answered countless time, and it's in the Mueller Report. You have no honest interest here.
Fun to watch you make claims about lies and never back them up.
And legal, court-ordered electronic surveillance of Russians isn't 'spying on the twump campaign'.
Pro-tip: words have meanings. Check that out sometime.
Did Wray say that no spying occurred or that he was distressed by the use of the word spying?
FBI chief Wray refutes Barr, says no 'spying' on Trump campaign
Last month Bill Barr expressly stated he was of the mind that spying on the Trump campaign occurred:Barr: "We’re worried about foreign influence in elections ... I think spying on a political campaign — it’s a big deal, it’s a big deal. I’m not suggesting that [rules enacted to ensure there's adequate basis for investigative actions] were violated, but I think it’s important to look at that. I’m not talking about the FBI necessarily, but intelligence agencies more broadly."
Sen. Shaheen: "You’re not suggesting that spying occurred?"
Barr: "I think spying did occur."
(Source)
Yet later in the same hearing he remarked: "I’m not saying if improper surveillance occurred." (Source) Furthermore, Barr asserted the DoJ is investigating the FBI's investigation of Trump.
Today, Trump's handpicked FBI Director, Chris Wray, declared under oath:I was very concerned by [Barr's] use of the word spying, which I think is a loaded word," Shaheen said. "When FBI agents conduct investigations against alleged mobsters, suspected terrorists, other criminals, do you believe they're engaging in spying when they're following FBI investigative policies and procedures?"
"That's not the term I would use," Wray said of "spying." "So, I would say that's a no to that question."
-- FBI chief Wray refutes Barr, says no 'spying' on Trump campaign
So here we are:
- Trump's handpicked AG says he "thinks" there spying occurred, but fails to identify who (what organization) performed it, but he's not investigating the FBI.
- Trump's handpicked FBI Dir., in substance, asserts that no FBI surveillance or investigative policy-compliant activities are spying.
So what must one rationally conclude from the above?
- The AG was taking out of two sides of his mouth.
- Spying isn't what the FBI does.
- So-called "spying" occurred, but neither Barr nor Wray has identified who was spied upon and who did the spying.
So the FISA warrant application has the word VERIFIED on it in big letters and a large portion of the application “evidence “ is the unverified Russian Dossier... words have meaning . The IG report is coming. Comey needs to lawyer up.Fun to watch you make claims about lies and never back them up.
And legal, court-ordered electronic surveillance of Russians isn't 'spying on the twump campaign'.
Pro-tip: words have meanings. Check that out sometime.
Won't have to.
Michael Horowitz is already doing so.
So the FISA warrant application has the word VERIFIED on it in big letters and a large portion of the application “evidence “ is the unverified Russian Dossier... words have meaning . The IG report is coming. Comey needs to lawyer up.
Why is it that people filled with hate lose the ability to think?
You don't need a committed crime in order to justify and investgiation. Only probable cause.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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