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[W:109] If White Conservatives Loved All People The Way They Do Embryos

Phys251

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If White Conservatives Loved All People The Way They Do Embryos

Conservatives love embryos.

They tell us all the time.

They speak effusively about them in conversation, publicly revere them, shed crocodile tears over them, accost strangers entering clinics over them, viciously troll people on social media over them, sermonize on street corners about them.

They even claim to have voted for an otherwise reprehensible monster they’d never otherwise tolerate to lead them—solely because of them.
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The problem with their breathless, tearful zealotry, is that once these embryos are no longer embryos—these supposed life-lovers often don’t treat them like they’re at all human.

Nine or thirteen or thirty-two or sixty-five years later when they show up in their communities and in their emergency rooms and along their borders, in need of food or refuge or healthcare or compassion—they’re no longer something sacred or beautiful. Unless these lives conform to the narrowest and most stringent of criteria (usually being white, Republican), they’re more often treated as threats to be neutralized and adversaries to be destroyed.
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Once the baby is born, the "prolife" movement picks and chooses which babies' lives matters and which do not.

Immigrants fleeing hellish conditions for a chance at a new life? They don't matter.
Babies born into deep poverty? They don't matter.
Babies in abusive households? They don't matter.
LGBTQs? They don't matter. Especially Ts and Qs.

And so on, and so forth. Have you ever noticed how the people who claim to be devout supporters of the lives of babies are remarkably opposed to any kind of policy that would increase the survivability of babies once they leave the womb? Why this hypocrisy, anti-choicers?
 
Phys251 said:
If White Conservatives Loved All People The Way They Do Embryos





Once the baby is born, the "prolife" movement picks and chooses which babies' lives matters and which do not.

Immigrants fleeing hellish conditions for a chance at a new life? They don't matter.
Babies born into deep poverty? They don't matter.
Babies in abusive households? They don't matter.
LGBTQs? They don't matter. Especially Ts and Qs.

And so on, and so forth. Have you ever noticed how the people who claim to be devout supporters of the lives of babies are remarkably opposed to any kind of policy that would increase the survivability of babies once they leave the womb? Why this hypocrisy, anti-choicers?
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People who oppose abortion also oppose the killing of innocent humans after they're born.

P.S. This is a really old and worn out bait. You can do better.
 
AmNat said:
People who oppose abortion also oppose the killing of innocent humans after they're born.

P.S. This is a really old and worn out bait. You can do better.
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People who oppose abortion SHOULD oppose killing them after birth. However, ask them to actually do anythimg to help these children and it seems they don't.
 
Phys251 said:
If White Conservatives Loved All People The Way They Do Embryos

Once the baby is born, the "prolife" movement picks and chooses which babies' lives matters and which do not.
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I don't agree with pro-lifers in any way, but sorry, this is a terrible argument. It's kind of like whataboutism, as much as I hate that term.

As far as I know, there isn't a single white conservative that thinks it's okay to kill people without some external justification, so you can't use their opinion on that subject with respect to "all people" to make an argument regarding their proposed treatment of embyros.
 
Tlrmln said:
I don't agree with pro-lifers in any way, but sorry, this is a terrible argument. It's kind of like whataboutism, as much as I hate that term.

As far as I know, there isn't a single white conservative that thinks it's okay to kill people without some external justification, so you can't use their opinion on that subject with respect to "all people" to make an argument regarding their proposed treatment of embyros.
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You realize how silly that sounds right? without some "external justification"? That could mean anything. Basically you are excusing the killing of a life as long as some other person deems it ok.
 
Just to reel some back in; the author of the post doesn't mean that the right picks and chooses who to kill after birth. What the author is referring to is how the right will demand a child be born, any child, but when it comes to society to help the parents raise the child when needed...the right walks away and complains about their money being used to help raise the children of others. And most of the children that the right walks away from are the ones that the author listed.

They will make all sorts of excuses (bad ones) to not act in accordance of what the Bible even tells them to do: help out. Instead, quite often they blame the parents for having marital sex and getting pregnant as a result and not ready to have a baby or worse, a single mother gets slut-shamed. Remember when that one politician said that if women practiced holding as aspirin between their knees they won't get pregnant? Or how about the time that Jesse Helms claimed that women can't get pregnant by rape?

Personally, I have no liking to abortion outside of rape, incest and medical reasons. But if as a society, we demand the baby to be born...and as a society, make no effort to make sure that it is provided for when needed...then I can't see how you can advocate an end to abortion.

And there is another point to consider. If you walk away after the baby is born, and you leave it to the vicious cycle of unprepared/too young parents, a lack of education and opportunities and proper nutrition as well as most of these babies are born into poverty...that life is horrible. And creates the problems all over again. So, basically, if you demand the child to be born and you wash your hands of it afterwards, you are contributing the ongoing problems of race and poverty. You are complicit in the very problems you wish to go away.

So, in the end, the vast majority of pro-lifers are really pro-birth. Because if you are really pro-life, you would do a better job of living up to the standards that Jesus put on us to make ourselves and our neighbors to be good human beings than to leave the child to a heartless void of love and care...because it takes money out of your wallet.
 
AmNat said:
People who oppose abortion also oppose the killing of innocent humans after they're born.

P.S. This is a really old and worn out bait. You can do better.
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So why are they usually war supporters? Conservatives want wars and liberals know better than to kill innocent civilians who did nothing to us.
 
Blue Donkey said:
So why are they usually war supporters? Conservatives want wars and liberals know better than to kill innocent civilians who did nothing to us.
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Tell that to Bill Clinton or Barack Obama.
 
Phys251 said:
If White Conservatives Loved All People The Way They Do Embryos





Once the baby is born, the "prolife" movement picks and chooses which babies' lives matters and which do not.

Immigrants fleeing hellish conditions for a chance at a new life? They don't matter.
Babies born into deep poverty? They don't matter.
Babies in abusive households? They don't matter.
LGBTQs? They don't matter. Especially Ts and Qs.

And so on, and so forth. Have you ever noticed how the people who claim to be devout supporters of the lives of babies are remarkably opposed to any kind of policy that would increase the survivability of babies once they leave the womb? Why this hypocrisy, anti-choicers?
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I didn't read much past the racist thread title.
 
AmNat said:
People who oppose abortion also oppose the killing of innocent humans after they're born.

P.S. This is a really old and worn out bait. You can do better.
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Prolifers do not care for all babies' lives once they are born. Truth hurts. :shrug:
 
AlphaOmega said:
I didn't read much past the racist thread title.
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Instead of playing the race card, why don't you try to laysplain to us what was factually wrong with it. ;)
 
Phys251 said:
If White Conservatives Loved All People The Way They Do Embryos





Once the baby is born, the "prolife" movement picks and chooses which babies' lives matters and which do not.

Immigrants fleeing hellish conditions for a chance at a new life? They don't matter.
Babies born into deep poverty? They don't matter.
Babies in abusive households? They don't matter.
LGBTQs? They don't matter. Especially Ts and Qs.

And so on, and so forth. Have you ever noticed how the people who claim to be devout supporters of the lives of babies are remarkably opposed to any kind of policy that would increase the survivability of babies once they leave the womb? Why this hypocrisy, anti-choicers?
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Both sides are hypocrites on the issue.
 
AlphaOmega said:
I didn't play the race card, the op did.
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In other words, you have no facts to refute the OP, so you decry it as "racist" even though it is true. :lol:

How about you actually address what the OP has to say, and if it's actually wrong, demonstrate why? That would help embarrass yourself less. ;)
 
Phys251 said:
Bothsiderism. You too, if the OP is wrong, please offer evidence as to why. :)
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The right can make the same argument. They can say the left won’t even give the baby a chance. They can say the left claims to be the compassionate ones but kills babies.
I’m pro choice, because there are too many unwanted babies that are being raised by incompetent parents.
Yea, bothsiderism.
 
Phys251 said:
If White Conservatives Loved All People The Way They Do Embryos





Once the baby is born, the "prolife" movement picks and chooses which babies' lives matters and which do not.

Immigrants fleeing hellish conditions for a chance at a new life? They don't matter.
Babies born into deep poverty? They don't matter.
Babies in abusive households? They don't matter.
LGBTQs? They don't matter. Especially Ts and Qs.

And so on, and so forth. Have you ever noticed how the people who claim to be devout supporters of the lives of babies are remarkably opposed to any kind of policy that would increase the survivability of babies once they leave the womb? Why this hypocrisy, anti-choicers?
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I don't really think this is correct. Conservatives are the most charitable of all groups, and they're most likely to develop groups that help the poor. Plus, they're most likely to adopt babies from third world nations. The difference is that they advocate doing their own charity work, while liberals groups advocate that the government do it.
 
Outlook said:
The right can make the same argument. They can say the left won’t even give the baby a chance. They can say the left claims to be the compassionate ones but kills babies.
I’m pro choice, because there are too many unwanted babies that are being raised by incompetent parents.
Yea, bothsiderism.
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You accept the OP but continue with your useless bothsiderism.

Feel free to start a new thread about that separate topic. :)
 
Phys251 said:
Prolifers do not care for all babies' lives once they are born. Truth hurts. :shrug:
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I think you need to get a new hobby. Trolling the internet doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
 
AmNat said:
I think you need to get a new hobby. Trolling the internet doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
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And there it is. With no facts left on your side, you resort to ad-hom attacks. :)
 
Phys251 said:
If White Conservatives Loved All People The Way They Do Embryos





Once the baby is born, the "prolife" movement picks and chooses which babies' lives matters and which do not.

Immigrants fleeing hellish conditions for a chance at a new life? They don't matter.
Babies born into deep poverty? They don't matter.
Babies in abusive households? They don't matter.
LGBTQs? They don't matter. Especially Ts and Qs.

And so on, and so forth. Have you ever noticed how the people who claim to be devout supporters of the lives of babies are remarkably opposed to any kind of policy that would increase the survivability of babies once they leave the womb? Why this hypocrisy, anti-choicers?
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Don't tell anybody!

But once upon a time this white conservative married an illegal alien Mexican(Brown person)(LOL)
 
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