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Voice of The People Getting Weaker by the Day

They are enacted by vote of elected representatives.

That's right. As I said, those representatives are elected by majority vote, and the bills they write are also enacted into law by majority vote.

And courts presume nothing of the sort.

I stand by what I said. Under the Supreme Court's "rational basis" standard of review, which applies in most challenges to the constitutionality of government actions, courts presume duly enacted laws are constitutional. Courts defer strongly to the legislature involved partly out of a belief that in a democratic form of government, it is legislators and not courts who should make policy decisions, because they are elected by the people and therefore accountable to them. As the Supreme Court has noted, quoting from one of its earlier decisions,

"The Constitution presumes that, absent some reason to infer antipathy, even improvident decisions will eventually be rectified by the democratic process and that judicial intervention is generally unwarranted no matter how unwisely we may think a political branch has acted." FCC v. Beach Communications, 508 U.S. 307, 314 (1993).
 
Total lack of understanding of Constitutional history. :doh

The Electoral College accomplished exactly what it was designed to do, prevent election by direct national popular vote to avoid Tyranny of the Majority. It was also designed to represent State's, not the national population in the selection of the President.

Not much understanding on your part either. The EC was intended to prevent what just happened, the election of a self absorbed ignoramus. Electors were expected to be persons of discernment whose better judgment would properly overrule a popular mistake like Trump. Instead, political parties took over the process and gave us hacks.
 
Let me introduce you the fact I'm not a Huffington Post author, as your con-fusion deepens.
Yet you ARE in a discussion thread CENTERED around the HuPO position piece. Might pay to know what you are talking about when you bleat on about other peoples 'facts'.
 
Yet you ARE in a discussion thread CENTERED around the HuPO position piece. Might pay to know what you are talking about when you bleat on about other peoples 'facts'.

Is this how you work? Assign words to someone who didn't say them, and hold them responsible for something they didn't say? Then say *I* don't know what I'm talking about?

Try another gig. This one is failing you.
 
Is this how you work? Assign words to someone who didn't say them, and hold them responsible for something they didn't say? Then say *I* don't know what I'm talking about?

Try another gig. This one is failing you.
:lamo

You dropped your little snippy 'facts' comment into a thread where people are still and continually ****ting themselves over the popular vote and as per the OP a 'victory'...and you want to talk about 'facts'?

:lamo
 
We all cringe when a criminal gets off on a technicality.

That EC vote, overriding the popular vote which went the other way, is a technicality.

My advice to the Republicans: enjoy it while you still can.

protecting 95% of the land mass in this country from the three most populated cities isn't a technicality, it is how the ****ing system is designed to work

go watch hunger games and pine for your wish of having big cities dictate to the rural masses how things work. it will never come to pass in this country
 
sorry Indians. the cubs won on a mere technicality.

sure, they won more contests, but you guys scored more runs, and more runs means you are the real winner.

just ask the losers crying in the streets blocking traffic!
 
:lamo

You dropped your little snippy 'facts' comment into a thread where people are still and continually ****ting themselves over the popular vote and as per the OP a 'victory'...and you want to talk about 'facts'?

:lamo

Con-tinually con-fused. ^
 
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The Clinton vote margin is almost two million and growing. Appears likely it will reach several million.

Hillary Clinton's Popular Vote Victory Keeps Growing | The Huffington Post

Any idea where Hillary won the popular vote and why? Here are the reasons

Sanctuary Cities!!! LA, Chicago, and NYC alone gave Clinton 3+ million more votes than Trump. Wonder how many of those votes were illegals?? Does the law mean anything to these mayors and supporters of the left?

Arizona
Tucson

California
Berkeley
Coachella
Los Angeles (the first, since 1979)
Oakland
Sacramento
Salinas
San Francisco
San Jose
Santa Ana
Watsonville

Colorado
Aurora
Denver

Connecticut
New Haven

District of Columbia
Washington, D.C.

Florida
Miami
Jacksonville

Illinois
Chicago

Maine
Portland

Maryland
Baltimore
Takoma Park

Massachusetts
Cambridge
Chelsea
Somerville

Michigan
Detroit

Minnesota
Minneapolis

New York
New York City (see also Illegal immigration to New York City)

New Jersey
Jersey City
Newark

New Mexico
Santa Fe

Oregon
Portland

Pennsylvania
Philadelphia

Utah
Salt Lake City

Vermont
Burlington

Washington
Seattle
 
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