saffron
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saffron said:No link has been established between homosexuality and the abuse of children.
George_Washington said:Well maybe not, but it is possible for someone to be both homosexual and a pedophile. We shouldn't just bury our heads in the sand when analyzing human sexuality just for fear of offending the gay community. It seems like nowadays if anyone mutters anything about the gay community, it's treated like a felony. They protested Eminem and they seem to lash out against anyone that doesn't accept their lifestyle. I find it rather ironic that the gay community seems to love freedom of speech and expression, except for when it's something they don't like to hear.
Heterosexual men are twice as likely to sexually abuse children as homosexual men are. There is solid evidence that over 92% of child abuse cases, including same gender sexual abuse, are perpetrated by heterosexuals
Stace said:Besides...there's homosexuality in the Bible....not to mention there are at least two Popes that are strongly suspected of having been gay...or at least bisexual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_popes
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0204/23/wbr.00.html
George_Washington said:Um, Stace. Where in the Bible are there blatant acts of homosexuality? Can you point out specific chapters, verses?
Even if there were two Popes that had a tendency towards homosexuality, so what? It doesn't mean anything. I don't really care if people are gay, personally. It's just the Vatican believes they should try to over come it.
Stace said:Genesis 19:4-5 talks of the men of Sodom coming to Lot's home and telling Lot to send out the visitors so that they may have sex with them. Yeah, seems at least bisexual to me.
Romans 1:26-27 speaks of men filled with lust for each other, and committing "indecent acts" with each other, as well as women.
1 Samuel 18:1-4, 2 Samuel 1:26, and Ruth 1:16-17 can be interpreted as speaking of homosexual relationships.
Look up Popes Julius III, Benedict IX, and John XI. Especially Julius III....yeah, I don't really think he "overcame" anything.
George_Washington said:Well yeah, there are mentions of it but it's not endorsed.
Bah. There have been all kinds of Rumors throughout the years about Popes and other members of the Catholic Church. We're so large and we've been around for so long, it's bound to happen.
And Stace, when you said, "look at all the Priests that have molested boys," well, there are pedophiles in every walk of life. We have about 1 billion members worldwide. We can't help it if once in a while a bad apple gets through. We make mistakes just like everyone else.
Stace said:Oh, I know there are pedophiles from all walks....I'm not arguing that at all. I was just trying to make a point, in that homosexuals aren't the only pedophiles out there, and are actually less likely to be pedophiles, as Kelzie pointed out.
:roll:Vatican said:But the paper also stresses the Church's deep respect for homosexuals, who, it says, should by no means be discriminated against.
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