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Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...


Emergency exits, fire curtains, fire alarms, smoke detectors and fire extinguishers in a movie theater are mandatory because they save lives. Not having those life saving precautions is irresponsible idiocy, and there are idiots out there that wouldn't have those common sense measures in place if they wern't enforced.
 

Yep, and if a person wanted a vegetable garden in their front yard they could do it, or a child could sell lemonade from the front lawn, or you could set up shop to cut people's hair without having to pay off the bureaucracy.

But that was when we were free and uncivilized.
 

It's almost impossible to win those freedoms back once the bureaucracy gains power and takes hold. They can also ignore reform politicians knowing that they will eventually be out of office and they are forever.
 

We created our own rights and protect them, we place the maximum value we can as we created them, we see them as the foundation of our democratic and free society. The government cannot take them away they are entrenched and even if that fails we have courts and other means to protect them. If we do not place reasonable limits upon rights and freedoms they are abused and lose their true meaning and purpose.
 
I could see doing this on public buildings, but to require it on private homes is over the line.

I looked for that in the article and didnt see it...does it include residential new construction?
 

Different provinces have different rules, even different cities have different rules

20 years ago I could get triple vodka sevens on special for $4.00. The city (I believe it was a city bylaw, ensured that happy hour prices were not that cheap during the early 2000s. Public drunkenness being the issue. A few Indian reserves are dry reserves, of course I believe Utah is far more restrictive then all but the indian reserves in Canada when it comes to alcohol
 

The government took away your right to choose what door latch you can put in your own home, you can!t by a double Crown and Coke and you can't get your hamburger cooked the way you want...you'll gladly give up any right the government asks you too, without any resistance.
 

I don't know I can do all those things.
 

More CONvoluted history I see. First off it isn't the 'gubmint' or the bureaucracy that wants vegatable gardens in the back yard where historically 'kitchen gardens' were done. Nor the bad ol' folks up in the dreaded Ivory Tower not wanting the traffic blockage in residential areas from in home businesses open to the public. (There is a reason for zoning ordinances- parking being one of them)

It was your neighbors, your fellow citizens who got tired of the mess in your front yard, the clogged side streets, the junker cars in the front yard of a 'backyard mechanic'. The other barber shops maintaining a store front to conduct business were the ones wanting competition to 'pay-off' the bureaucracy.

In short it was WE the PEOPLE who got tired of your mess... eace
 

More CON no-sense. The goverment also took away your 'right' to park near the store's door by putting in those pesky handicapped spots... :roll:

I'd say back in the 'good ol' days' you had no choice in doorknobs... they were all round :shock:

Poor CONs can't get drunker faster by buying doubles in public! The agony of that! Stay home and drink the Crown straight from the bottle!

You get LOTS of choices in hamburgers, just not raw... again in your own home eat that ground meat straight from the tube!

But the true CON no-sense is thinking IF ya can't get double alcohol in one glass or raw burgers you have given up a 'right'.

As CONs are quick to point out about other issues- show me where in the Constitution a restaurant must serve raw meat or a bar has to serve you liquor with a splash of mixer?

NO THING the CONs are ranting about are a right.... more a whim.
 
This is just silliness but then where I live they have banned fireplaces a few years after an ice storm where everyone lost power and families without fireplaces moved into family friends places that had them so they could stay warm.

Gotta love politicians wasting time on nonsense and refusing to deal with the stuff they were elected to do.
 

Its MY house I should be able to build it as I like.
 

Actually their insurance that is if they had insurance would tell them to get these things, because the insurance doesn't want to pay out. Don't need much in the way of government.
 
Its MY house I should be able to build it as I like.
Not if your using faulty and sub par construction materials and methods that are going to endanger my house if yours catches fire.
 
m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m........knobs
 
Not if your using faulty and sub par construction materials and methods that are going to endanger my house if yours catches fire.

I dont live next to anyone. Its my fricken house, on my land. I could care less about you or your house. Perhaps you should have insurance, or YOUR house up to snuff, or better yet have fire suppression equipment built into it.
 

More libbo nonsense. Libbos don't understand yhe difference between necessary regulations and government infringement on your right to choose.

From all of us that handed you this great nation where you're free to take your freedom for granted...you're welcome!
 
I am the consumer of the product, why shouldn't it be my choice to take the risk?

Because your children don't have a say and we already decide that as a parent you have certain obligations to keep them safe/healthy. Also anyone who comes to visit will not know if you have built your house in a shoddy substandard way and you are putting their lives in danger as well. Again a something we have decided as a society that you really don't have the right to do.
having said that the doorknob thing is just plain dumb.
 
Actually their insurance that is if they had insurance would tell them to get these things, because the insurance doesn't want to pay out. Don't need much in the way of government.
Insurance companies don't all have the same requirements. There are reasons why there are mandated standards in the construction of buildings. Building codes are to protect public health, safety and general welfare as they relate to the construction and occupancy of buildings and structures. Building codes have been around for thousands of years for good reason
 

For a nation built on sovereign freedom, its become awfully pushy.
 
I dont live next to anyone. Its my fricken house, on my land. I could care less about you or your house. Perhaps you should have insurance, or YOUR house up to snuff, or better yet have fire suppression equipment built into it.
Insurance will do you a ****load of good when you and your family burn to death in your sleep because your built your house out of combustible building materials and decided that you didn't need those Orwellian smoke detectors.
 
For a nation built on sovereign freedom, its become awfully pushy.

I never said they didn't go overboard with this but definitely you should have building codes. Don't forget most people do not actually build their own house anymore and there must be some assurance that the house they buy was built in a safe manner.
IMHO I think you should never build to code, but should strive to build better than code. eg. Code calls for 5/8" plywood well go for 3/4" not a huge difference in price but a stronger building.
 
Insurance will do you a ****load of good when you and your family burn to death in your sleep because your built your house out of combustible building materials and decided that you didn't need those Orwellian smoke detectors.

Not to be nit picky but most houses are built of combustible materials. That doesn't mean you use highly flammable material however.
 

Building codes haven't been around for thousands of years, at least in any wide spread fashion. So the insurance companies don't have the same requirements. So what? They have to cover for the loss. Building codes aren't for safety and the general welfare they are for insurance purposes ie reduce their expenses and risk. That don't have to inspect the dwelling and take on the risk the inspector may have missed something. A lot of public building inspectors are bought off anyhow. You will find most building codes were pushed by the insurance industry long before safety groups got involved.
 
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