paddymcdougall
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Indeed. If a woman's privacy is important in terms of her abortion rights then why is it not important in term of vaccines? Because, like I said, selective reasoning. They set out something like "we have a right to privacy" and then start marking down where it applies and where it doesn't as if that logically flows at all. It's really all old hat that many peoples politics are shaped around.
In answer to your slippery slope, I think we can safely say that mandatory vaccinations are not blazing a trail for the practice of eugenics.
I am against mandatory vaccinations. IF schools want to ban those children then they need to supply teachers to come to the houses of banned children so that they can teach them.
IT was ten years ago and I can't remember if it was that week or two weeks... the timing was close enough that it was not coincidental.
In what country? That isnt the case in the US. They have already done so and SCOTUS ruled on it. However there are new challenges but now the schools can do so.
So besides insults is there anything you have to say to defend your argument?
That doesn't open up Pandora's Box or anything... mandatory sterilization of anybody with an IQ under 90 and half of the people living in the South is best for our nation too, does that work for you?
Huh?
This really has no relevance to the original point that was made, which was that there's no reason to be fearful that your infant grandchild might die, or that they are at any real greater risk of dying, due to a tiny outbreak of measles. Its nonsense, as are all these news stories that aim to scare people about this "deadly disease" by trying to pass off third world statistics as being somehow relevant to care here in the US.
Fifty years ago, before there was a vaccine, we had millions of people infected with measles, and something like 65 infant deaths per year. Now we should worry, because 200 people got measles at Disneyland?
Give me a break.
You can't vaccinate infants.
In any country that makes that kind of decision...
That sucks but you cant get it from the shots.
There are some reactions that people can get tho and they mimic minor flu symptoms. I think they just dont last as long.
I rarely get the flu, like once in the last 15 yrs. Sometimes I get the shot, sometimes I dont. I got it this yr and the next day felt like crap and had muscle aches. But still better than missing work for the flu.
I note that you didnt respond to my post where I supported my claim that medical privacy rights can be overcome by appropriate state's interests, in this case public welfare/health. I compared it to how the state does so for any rights and used the First Amendment as an example where it can and does override that right in some cases for the public good.
Well they can and do here. So your statement does not apply to the US.
Apparently....unvaccinated kids.
Pretty sure I answered it and I said that the State can do anything immoral, illegal and hypocritical that it wants. You are arguing about the greater good. That is a Pandora's box. A much better argument about the greater good for society would be to sterilize all the degenerate idiots out there taking welfare, living as crack addicts or that have IQ's under 90. Within one generation the USA would be a flourishing beacon of greatness. No, instead let's focus on a small minority of people that don't want to vaccinate and apply government force onto them. The reason your 1st Amendment argument fails is because the government is not forcing anything on you. You say "bomb" in a theatre and you have broken a law. They are not forcing you say something. In vaccinations the government is forcing their will on you. Big difference.
In the USA and if your kid is not vaccinated... they will not admit you to school and they send a teacher to your house to teach the kid on a daily basis... ummm... what?
I never said that I wanted no government. Sorry. The rest is some bizarre Straw Man.
I don't even bother with the flu shot, Blue doesn't kill you, pneumonia after getting the flu does
Just get the pneumococcal vaccine. Get that once every 10 years, and it should work just fine
LOL this argument hold no more weight and is just as much a straw man as the one where you were accused of wanting no govt.
And the use of force doesnt work either. You can be deprived of your right to liberty, by force, when the govt decides you have broken a law.
They do? Where?
Is that the case for children who are unable to tolerate the vaccines? It's not for those that refuse the vaccines without medical basis....do you have some proof of that?
Have any links that support that?
Yes. Exactly.
Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
I never said that I wanted no government. Sorry. The rest is some bizarre Straw Man.
Being vaccinated is not a law and you are the second person to claim I said I wanted no government. I never ever once uttered anything close to that in my life.
I can't waste time debating people who are literally delusional.
Are you drunk? I said that they should if they will deny kids to a school. You said that they do in the USA. I just asked... "ummm what?" as a result.
:lol: What?
You can't vaccinate infants.
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