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Coming from the guy who calls people butthurt instead of addressing the actual argument :roll:Your butthurt is noted as is your apparent lack of ability to engage in conversation.
How does an unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? Explain it. No one else has. They just keep chanting a nonsensical slogan.
Well that's been explained multiple times, but to reiterate from other posters here is a link that helps explain it.How does an unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? Explain it. No one else has. They just keep chanting a nonsensical slogan.
No, the other question is who gets to decide which risk to take?
Many here say it's the government. Maybe the governments should have people at casinos dictating which bet to place calculating the odds.
Many people no longer grasp the concept of INDIVIDUAL risk taking, that it's MY risk to decide, not the government's or the collective hive mentality.
Most vaccinations are a disease they are injecting into the person. No tests are done on the person before this. No information of where or how it is was made. Just 50 needles with diseases, some with many blended together, for which those of the collective hive mentality declare the big pharma has successfully assured the government it's safe - and thus only a lunatic would dare question it.
And all the experts swore Iraq had WMDs too. To everyone. To the whole world. And MOST people believed them. It's not like government and corporations ever lie to anyone. :roll:
You should definitely try putting some ice on where it hurts.Coming from the guy who calls people butthurt instead of addressing the actual argument :roll:
Move along.
It has been explained on a number of posts- elderly - those with immune disorders - those receiving cancer treatments - those that are to young for vaccinations - vaccination degrade over time - vaccinations are not 100 % effective.
Given your lack of compassion, I am glad you are not the one deciding vaccination policy for the nation. .
Unless she had an allergic reaction no she didn't. There is no connection between vaccines and ADHD or SIDS.
What is weird is that it is the Liberals blindly defending vaccines here... In the area where we had our kids it was very liberal and those were the ones staunchly against vaccines... :lol:
I wouldn't say you lack compassion. What you lack is perspective and rationality.Wait... :lol: I am the one worried about innocent children being subjected to vaccine adverse reactions and I am the one lacking compassion?
Hmm...
Along side ADHD rates increasing, the rate of kids watching TV has increased.
The rate of kids eating fast food has increased.
The rate of kids playing video games increased.
The rate of kids using the internet increased.
The rate of kids having access to tablets and smartphones increased
Amongst other things...
Better keep your kids away from TV, video games, fast food, the internet, electronics, amongst other things since all those things have been increasing as well then it must be treated as if they cause ADHD until it can be proven 100% that they don't.
Correlation doesn't equal causation
Care to make any other bogus statistic up, or are we done?
Perhaps reply to the question that was askedIs that who has been contracting the measles during this latest outbreak?
Wait... :lol: I am the one worried about innocent children being subjected to vaccine adverse reactions and I am the one lacking compassion? What a crock of ****. :lol:
Nope... the ones that don't seem to give a **** that my daughter almost died or that she should be an accepted loss are the ****ing pieces of **** that lack compassion, my young uneducated friend.
Perhaps reply to the question that was asked
I did not ask but feel free to call them.
Only if you live in a black and white world where everything must be allowed or the government has to ban everything dangerous.
I don't live there. Do you?
Cars are regulated. How they're built and operated are regulated to provide reasonable safety standards to protect the people. Why aren't you railing against those fascist speed limits?
There are obviously risks to the vaccines, but the way to evaluate "compassion" with vaccines is in comparing a world without them and with them, and the fact that I don't think you dispute is the health of the population improves dramatically with vaccines, FAR fewer people get sick and die, and at risks that are lower than taking Tylenol.
It's obviously unfair to trivialize the risks that you apparently experienced through your children, but it would still be uncompassionate, and borderline evil, to acknowledge that real risk and advise others to avoid vaccines because of it. If that advice was widely followed, for example if a poor country in Africa decided against vaccines because of the adverse events, many, many more men, women and children would get sick and die of totally preventable disease.
I don't see it as a liberal/conservative issue at all.
It's an idiot versus normal issue.
I wouldn't say you lack compassion. What you lack is perspective and rationality.
I never said vaccines were a panacea or 100% effective. I merely refuted the claim by another poster that flu vaccines were 95% ineffective. Then you replied to that refutation with a source that failed to address the refutation, and that was shown to be total bunk regardless.You should definitely try putting some ice on where it hurts.
I didnt offer the '95%' figure but as the CDC itself admitted that its current vaccine is inefficient.
The current vaccine is known to be ineffective for aprox 52% of the current strain of flu virus.
Flu shot may not be enough protection this season - CBS News
HAN Archive - 00374|Health Alert Network (HAN)
The absolute risk reduction between the vaccines for senior citizens was 0.46% (1.89%-1.43%) even after increasing the dosage by four times the initial amount. Its sold as being 24% more effective than the ORIGINAL vaccine...which was determined to be ineffective.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/818438
Navy study indicates 96% of flu sufferers received flu shots.
Navy Proves Flu Shot Doesn't Work
None of this is to suggest vaccines are bad or ineffective, just that they are not always the panacea some might think they are.
You should really read the posts people are responding to before jumping into their conversations. Nobody said anything about the elderly contracting measles during this latest outbreak, nor does that have anything to do with how unvaccinated people put vaccinated people at risk, which was what the line of discussion was about.Is that who has been contracting the measles during this latest outbreak?
Please show me the source that confirms that the flu vaccine is a waste of time and money for 95% of people. That sounds an awful lot like an opinion with a bogus made-up statistic thrown in just for kicks.Those are facts. Additionally the two times I did get the flu vaccine... I got the flu that week. Only two times that I got the flu in that decade.
I never said vaccines were a panacea or 100% effective. I merely refuted the claim by another poster that flu vaccines were 95% ineffective. Then you replied to that refutation with a source that failed to address the refutation, and that was shown to be total bunk regardless.
You should really read the posts people are responding to before jumping into their conversations. Nobody said anything about the elderly contracting measles during this latest outbreak, nor does that have anything to do with how unvaccinated people put vaccinated people at risk, which was what the line of discussion was about.
Please show me the source that confirms that the flu vaccine is a waste of time and money for 95% of people. That sounds an awful lot like an opinion with a bogus made-up statistic thrown in just for kicks.
Judging by your immature rants after every reply to your posts, I don't think you understand what a conversation is any more than you understand vaccines.I was not defending the 95% remark. I DID show that the CDC by their own admission stated that their only sometime reliable vaccine is ineffective on 52% of the current strains seen this year. I was engaging in what a lot of people like to call a 'conversation' and you responded like you caught your own pubes in your zipper.
Annnnnnnnnnd you did it AGAIN with this latest round. Dood stated an array of people that are susceptible to the measles. I asked a QUESTION...is that who is contracting the measles during the current outbreak. Thats it. Again...CONVERSATION.
Stop kicking yourself in the groin and try it some time.
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