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US supreme court clears way for deportation of migrants to South Sudan

"“What the government wants to do, concretely, is send the eight noncitizens it illegally removed from the United States from Djibouti to South Sudan, where they will be turned over to the local authorities without regard for the likelihood that they will face torture or death,” Sotomayor wrote.

“Today’s order clarifies only one thing: Other litigants must follow the rules, but the administration has the Supreme Court on speed dial,”"
 
This stuff is just pure evil. So are the people that don't oppose it. Deporting people to war zones, or any other 3rd world country that they have no connection to, is so inhumane that I can't really recognize this as something America would do! Yes, these might be bad people, although there are few reasons left to trust the Trump admin regarding those claims, but from the article it seems that at least some of these people have already served their punishments. That means that after serving their punishment in the US, they get subjected to an even worse punishment, not applied through any judicial review, at the whim of the Trump administration. How can anyone applaud this level of evil?
 
In more ways than one, today (okay, the last few weeks and months leading to today) was a threshold crossed. Without explicitly saying it, the unitary executive is the de facto setting for this nation's federal government. The judicial branch and the legislative branch, designed as checks and balances against the unhealthy ambitions of a tyrant, have failed to function. I see no guardrails.
 
This stuff is just pure evil. So are the people that don't oppose it. Deporting people to war zones, or any other 3rd world country that they have no connection to, is so inhumane that I can't really recognize this as something America would do! Yes, these might be bad people, although there are few reasons left to trust the Trump admin regarding those claims, but from the article it seems that at least some of these people have already served their punishments. That means that after serving their punishment in the US, they get subjected to an even worse punishment, not applied through any judicial review, at the whim of the Trump administration. How can anyone applaud this level of evil?
No doubt they're going to whoops citizens to Libya and Rwanda and South Sudan.
 

US supreme court clears way for deportation of migrants to South Sudan​


It's a vacation paradise.

What's the problem?
 
The Democrats must run on expanding the Supreme Court with non-fascists.

I don't think that works. Running on adding court justices or whatever is something that they average dopamine-addicted moron on social media doesn't relate to or comprehend. I mean, the death of Roe v Wade was supposed to be the end of the Republican party and it just wasn't. I think the Democrats need to find someone with evangelical soul and spirit who can basically articulate what is at stake in these elections and then just speak to those issues like the voice of God.
 
In more ways than one, today (okay, the last few weeks and months leading to today) was a threshold crossed. Without explicitly saying it, the unitary executive is the de facto setting for this nation's federal government. The judicial branch and the legislative branch, designed as checks and balances against the unhealthy ambitions of a tyrant, have failed to function. I see no guardrails.

Yep. If non-Fascists want any chance of retaking the country, it is going to have to be at the local level.
 
In more ways than one, today (okay, the last few weeks and months leading to today) was a threshold crossed. Without explicitly saying it, the unitary executive is the de facto setting for this nation's federal government. The judicial branch and the legislative branch, designed as checks and balances against the unhealthy ambitions of a tyrant, have failed to function. I see no guardrails.
These are interesting times indeed.
 
Yep. If non-Fascists want any chance of retaking the country, it is going to have to be at the local level.

I am not even sure that the Democratic party as we know it today is up to the task. It might have to be a national crisis and a crack-up of the two parties that does it.

My base case, as they mention in econ/fin circles, is that America is headed for a major period of tumult. I think it's inevitable now because people are going to be deprived of rights, deprived of services, deprived of things they've long taken for granted. At first they'll be surprised and stunned. Then they'll become desperate and angry. The peasants against the barony.
 
I don't think that works. Running on adding court justices or whatever is something that they average dopamine-addicted moron on social media doesn't relate to or comprehend. I mean, the death of Roe v Wade was supposed to be the end of the Republican party and it just wasn't. I think the Democrats need to find someone with evangelical soul and spirit who can basically articulate what is at stake in these elections and then just speak to those issues like the voice of God.
With (genuine) respect, we are much past that sort of process oriented electoralism. The campaign should assume the absence of free and fair elections and remind the American people that they too can be Greek or French.

This next bit is just an interesting little trivia from the NH state constitution I accidently posted in this reply and am too dim to figure out how to remove.

Article 10

Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security, of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
 
South Sudan 2025

In early March, clashes between the Army and the rebel Nuer White Army in the town of Nasir left dozens dead. On March 26, 2025, Vice President Riek Machar was arrested on orders of President Salva Kiir claiming he had instigated and supported the White Army, despite the White Army denying any ties. The arrest was met by a response from the SPLM-IO stating such an act violates the ceasefire that ended the South Sudanese civil war in 2020. Machar's arrest was accompanied by the mass sacking of his supporters, and the arrival of a unit from the Ugandan armed forces invited into the country by Kiir to help fight against the White Army.

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres stated that the "peace agreement is in shambles" and South Sudan is on "the edge of a collapse into civil war" while the African Union has sent a delegation to try and deescalate the conflict.

 
I don't think that works. Running on adding court justices or whatever is something that they average dopamine-addicted moron on social media doesn't relate to or comprehend. I mean, the death of Roe v Wade was supposed to be the end of the Republican party and it just wasn't. I think the Democrats need to find someone with evangelical soul and spirit who can basically articulate what is at stake in these elections and then just speak to those issues like the voice of God.

Yeah, but the current Democratic leadership does not want to do that. They would rather lose to Republicans than back left-wing figures that trouble their wealthy corporate donors. Finding a transformative FDR-like figure is not at the top of their agenda. They will settle on a soulless neoliberal centrist technocrats like Pete Buttigieg and hope that dissatisfaction alone will grant the Democratic Party victory, rather than campaigning on a platform of transformative positive change.
 
I am not even sure that the Democratic party as we know it today is up to the task. It might have to be a national crisis and a crack-up of the two parties that does it.

My base case, as they mention in econ/fin circles, is that America is headed for a major period of tumult. I think it's inevitable now because people are going to be deprived of rights, deprived of services, deprived of things they've long taken for granted. At first they'll be surprised and stunned. Then they'll become desperate and angry. The peasants against the barony.
Or the people will become resigned, scared, and submissive. (Save for the sizeable portion that continues to cheer the Government that is making war on most Americans. It's a cult.)

Germany never did manage to overthrow Hitler and Nazism.
 
It's ridiculous, but then again this is coming from the same group of people who are selling "Alligator Alcatraz" merch.
It's not ridiculous if you're Stephen Miller and your wife left you for the lumpy guy and this is the only way you can get off.
 
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