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We have. Which is why we still have firearms.
We have. Which is why we still have firearms.Why?
Can the US not learn from the rest of the world?
It would take the votes of 2/3 of both Houses of Congress and the votes of the legislatures of 38 states to make the necessary change, and unknown number of deaths to confiscate 400 million (not 260,000) guns.
State and local law enforcement are not obliged to enforce federal law. Red states won't help enforce a ban, nor would blue counties in red states. How effective would such a confiscation effort against a hostile population? How many British cops owned private weapons in 1996? How many US cops own private firearms now?
Even the "bans" proposed by Democrats don't take away a single firearm.
We have. Which is why we still have firearms.
Nope..I am not worried about governments gone wild..Are you really so worried about a government gone wild you accept hundreds of school shootings?
There is no " gun issue".So because it isn't easy why bother?
Going to the moon wasn't easy and the US managed that, you can solve the gun issue if you bother trying but Republicans have sold themselves to the gun loby so nothing will ever change and the bodies will continue to pile up.
There is no " gun issue".
If it was just a matter of money those Republicans would be Democrats. Bloomberg is the largest political donor in the last 20 years; George Soros is number 5. The NRA doesn't even make the top one hundred.So because it isn't easy why bother?
Going to the moon wasn't easy and the US managed that, you can solve the gun issue if you bother trying but Republicans have sold themselves to the gun loby so nothing will ever change and the bodies will continue to pile up.
We don't have hundreds of school shootings. We'd have to confiscate every single one of the 400 million guns in the US to prevent all school shootings. Is that feasible?Are you really so worried about a government gone wild you accept hundreds of school shootings?
How would we make the change? What would the end results look like?The numbers for gun deaths says otherwise.
That you can't even see a problem with tens of thousands of dead a year because of guns shows why nothing will change.
How would we make the change? What would the end results look like?
Why do you ignore everything I've posted here explaining why the UK process won't work in the US?
We don't have hundreds of school shootings. We'd have to confiscate every single one of the 400 million guns in the US to prevent all school shootings. Is that feasible?
The US isn't the rest of the world.Why?
Can the US not learn from the rest of the world?
You really should be suspicious of such high numbers. What is considered a school shooting.I just did a quick google search and there have been 389 school shooting since Columbine.
The uk had one shooting in1996 and none since.
All that is bullshit. Government employers and leftist private employers demanded compliance or be fired. Most did not require vaccinations and did just fine.1. By their employers BUD.
Why should their employers have to deal with increased liability and cost because of tgeir behavior.
2. My employees can choose to work elsewhere.
And yes..my workers comp does cover work place exposures...hence why vaccination is important in order to reduce my costs. Not to mention the healthcare costs for employees..and the cost of overtime etc to cover employees out due to illness.
My employees getting covid is a HUGE cost to me..
It increases my liability if they give a patient covid..
It increases my workers comp if they get covid from the workplace.
It increases my costs for healthcare if they get sick and need tge doctor or medications or be hospitalized
It increases my costs in overtime..and lost revenue when they are out sick.
More deflection.You seem a bit desperate. Calm down.
This is a discussion about firearms as a contributing factor to successful suicide. Re-focus and get back to me.
Your firearm fantasies are a concern to me, as they should be to other thoughtful Americans, but they are not the reason for this discussion.
Sure there are liberals who are pro gun. There are conservative’s who are pro abortion. Still that broad brush does a pretty good job. The current political climate has the left hyper anti gun. The mildest way for me to point that out is to use liberal.There are liberals on this site who are entirely supportive of gun rights. Put away your broad brush, and call the gun control zealots what they are...as I just did. They aren't even limited to progressives and liberals.
Is that Florida law still intact?What new law on who should own?
Gun type is meaningless.
Concealed carriers are cleaner than most everyone else.
Age is already restricted.
You don’t have a common sense bone in your leftist body. If you did you would understand that punishment of convicted offenders is the proper and lasting way to reduce gun violence.
In Florida Jeb Bush and the republicans passed 10-20-life. Use a gun in a crime and get 10 years. Fire that gun and get 20. Someone gets hurt and it’s life. All mandatory! Violent crime fell of course. Shocker!
And conservatives tend to be fact based thinkers VS leftists who are the emotion based thinkers. It’s how you come up with some of these stupid ideas like blaming the law abiding for the actions of the lawless. How about being crazy for tougher laws while marshmallow soft on actual criminals breaking existing laws. Dumb ideas from a knee jerk reacting group who uses emotion over brains. Those poor kids at uvalde if only the madman didn’t have an AR! A handgun even a machete could easily achieve the death toll but it’s the ar. Just no sense.
And I suspect that if you ever leave your bubble that you will eventually become the victim of a violent crime. Only you will be at the mercy of your attacker with your only option to beg for mercy of aim your banana at them. Not all citizens are cowards. Those of us who decide to retain the ability to resist are as law abiding or more than those who don’t statistically. So your fears are unfounded. My ideas are to simply keep myself and family safe from all dangers possible. My “paranoia” as you say is simply understanding the reality of my area. Understanding the odds of becoming a victim. Knowing the dangers out there. Carrying a firearm just incase the unthinkable happens. You do realize that me carrying a gun doesn’t change anything for either of us right? Everything is normal from my perspective and you never know I’m armed. Don’t forget we are safer than you statistically.I suspect that the odds favor you eventually getting into significant trouble with your gun ideas, your described behaviors, and your growing paranoia.
Gun control advocates typically oppose all unconstitutional, ineffective and unenforceable gun laws. Given Bruen, that covers a lot of ground.Where did I mention the uk?
There are plenty of ways to limit access to firearms and republicans oppose all of them.
So now you're comparing the US to the UK. What did the UK do to prevent school shootings?I just did a quick google search and there have been 389 school shooting since Columbine.
The uk had one shooting in1996 and none since.
1. And why can't an employer decide what employees are best for his company. Especially when umvaccinated employees represent an increased cost to his /her company?All that is bullshit. Government employers and leftist private employers demanded compliance or be fired. Most did not require vaccinations and did just fine.
And at no time did any mandate come in for or premium change happen from workman’s compensation because of Covid. None!
Your overtime and lost revenue are even worst if you fire that person for not taking the vaccine VS them being out for 4 to 6 days sick. Many good companies like mine simply monitored temperature and how employees felt. We also provided safety measures like social distancing, hand sanitizer, and germ cleaning between work days. I spent thousands. Zero infections at work. I finally caught the shit in a Texas sink hole exhibit while on vacation. And I was vaccinated.
Sick employees are a HUGE cost to you but fired employee are free lol. How ****ing stupid do you think we are to feed us that bullshit? Loss of production permanently vs 1 week in most cases. Training a new hire. Perhaps paying for advertisement or an agency to find someone. Hell finding a new hire was nearly impossible back then. You are full of political crap. If you even are a business owner you are fluffing things believing that others won’t know and just accept what you said because it sounds plausible.
Finally if you fired me for not taking the new not properly tested vaccine that was causing some side effects I would simply sue you. Like most companies and government agencies that did this to good employees, you likely used us when the danger was super high and there was no vaccine. We probably kept your doors open and profits coming in risking our lives daily. Only to be tossed out like trash once the left gave out your marching orders. Never mind our families. Never mind our sacrifice for you earlier lol pathetic.
I bet you were a mask nazi boss weren’t you lol?
Age is restricted to 18-21. Revolvers hold 6 or more yet you want semis to have two and you claim my stuff is BS lol. Two shots ha ha ha. Lol then I switch to my 8 shot revolver. Talk about ignorant.Age is not restricted enough as to who can purchase a gun.
Age is not restricted enough as to who can purchase a gun. Type of gun is not meaningless. All of your shit is BS, but I think you know that. Semi-automatic firmarms should be "prohibited weapons" or restricted to a magazine capacity of no more than two shots
No they don't say otherwise.The numbers for gun deaths says otherwise.
That you can't even see a problem with tens of thousands of dead a year because of guns shows why nothing will change.
The rest of the world manages pretty well without guns.
Exactly. So why worry about mine or your neighbors?..As do the majority of people in the USA.
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