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US senator: enough Iran sanctions support to override veto.....

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Finally.....the Repubs are about to show BO peep that all that talk about his Pen. Is going to come to a stop Right away. Starting with this issue Right here, Iran. This is good news indeed. As Bo was about to hand Iran a good deal for them. But a bad deal for everybody else. He is desperate to pull off a deal so he can say he solved the Iran Problem. it just isn't going to happen.....and I think this will be a smack down that BO needs to experience in full effect. Something that will cause his grey matter to shrink down some and accept his role....as the Lame Duck! What say ye?



There is sufficient support for expanded sanctions on Iran in the new Republican-controlled US Congress to override veto threats by President Barack Obama, a senator told radio broadcaster NPR Wednesday. The White House has sought to dissuade US lawmakers from passing new sanctions against Tehran, warning such a move could scupper talks.

Meanwhile, the United States added nine individuals and entities to its Iran sanctions blacklist in a move condemned Wednesday by Tehran as a "blatant violation of goodwill" amid the long-running talks.....snip~

US senator: enough Iran sanctions support to override veto
 
Oh, god. The last thing we need is more wars. If I were religious I would be praying right now for these warhawks to fail.
 
brothern said:
Oh, god. The last thing we need is more wars. If I were religious I would be praying right now for these warhawks to fail.
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Its a done deal and BO wont be able to help Iran get their nuke. So it is a very good thing. Which Iran doesn't want to go war unless they have that Nuke.....as they are just as incompetent as the Arabs are.
 
MMC said:
Its a done deal and BO wont be able to help Iran get their nuke. So it is a very good thing. Which Iran doesn't want to go war unless they have that Nuke.....as they are just as incompetent as the Arabs are.
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is there a con here who can speak with MMC that a "President Obama wants to help Iran get a nuke" narrative is just ridiculous. How is it possible he's learned nothing from the conservative narratives of

President Obama was born in Kenya
is a secret muslim terrorist
wants to kill old people
the stimulus will cause hyper inflation, dollar collapse, market to zero
Obamacare is a govt takeover of healthcare
Obamacere will destroy the economy
the stock market is a bubble
the auto bailout was an illegal bailout of unions
and the most vile and disgusting "stand down" lies
 
Yayyy! Its not like the US an other western countries are in talks with Iran about their nuclear program. Im sure sanctions are going to do a lot of good and be very proactive while we are in talks.... :roll:
 


Can someone here explain to Vern what Iran has been doing all this time while BO has allowed deadlines to pass. Explain it real slow and keep it simple since it is easy to confuse him.
 
MMC said:
Can someone here explain to Vern what Iran has been doing all this time while BO has allowed deadlines to pass. Explain it real slow and keep it simple since it is easy to confuse him.
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Of course Iran is willing to talk and negotiate. They will continue to talk and negotiate until they detonate a nuke at a test site in Iran, then they will laugh as they walk away from the negotiation table.
 
MMC said:
Can someone here explain to Vern what Iran has been doing all this time while BO has allowed deadlines to pass. Explain it real slow and keep it simple since it is easy to confuse him.
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You mean how Iran has been minding its own business, while also enacting incredibly progressive reforms for a Middle Eastern country?

That doesn't need to be explained really slow. I think you'd be able to understand that MMC even when said really, really fast!
 


Oh you mean how Iran sponsors terrorists......like minding its own Business that way Brothern? While at the same time working on ballistic missiles. That Part on creating ballistics is quite a progressive platform. Also did you want to include how Iran was supplying Rockets to Hezbollah and Hamas and how Progressive those reforms are?

Did you want to increase the speed and output yet Brothern? Lets up it a notch and see what you got with throwing the Shia in.....Yemen and Iraq.

Don't forget let me know when I need to slow down so you can keep pace, okay! I wouldn't want to be accused of taking advantage of ya now.
 
The Senator is Rubio. McConnell now has 53 big Chiefs and he's the one little Indian. May his God help him .
 
NIMBY said:
The Senator is Rubio. McConnell now has 53 big Chiefs and he's the one little Indian. May his God help him .
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Correction.....that would be 54 plus about 17 Demos going against BO peep. But don't worry BO will put the blame on everybody else and how they are just picking on him. :lol:
 
Fletch said:
Of course Iran is willing to talk and negotiate. They will continue to talk and negotiate until they detonate a nuke at a test site in Iran, then they will laugh as they walk away from the negotiation table.
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Mornin' Fletch. :2wave: Are you saying they have been enriching all this time, while BO's Team talks and Iran delays and delays?

Why do you think BO and his Team have been pressuring Democrats to not join ranks with the Repubs and keep up with the sanctions?

Do you think this is because BO wouldn't answer to calls for help with the revolution that got crushed?
 
i dont think sanctions are a good idea,when negotiations and relations could do better.

but ofcourse america has refused relations with iran ever since the shah was overthrown in 79.we basically overthrew the iranian leader to install a us puppet the shah,who brought upon the most economically devoloped country in the middle east,but ruled with an iron fist that rivalled north korea.after he was overthrown their economy crumbled,but most of its economy beforehand was funded by the us government.


since then the us govt has seen iran as an enemy,and has done everything in its power to overthrow its govt short of war.during the iran iraq war,america supported saddam in hopes of them overtaking iran,a plan that later backfired.in all this time though america has not tried any relations,any real negotiations,and rather has seemed bent on crushing them economically in hopes of destroying their current govt.
 
Leaks out of the talks suggest the Iranians are playing the U.S. and the other negotiating countries for more concessions. Iran’s deputy foreign minister, Abbas Araqchi, last week said that “everything, including an extension [of the November deadline], is possible.” Another delay would give Iran more time to perfect the technology behind a bomb and to create further political pressure from Western business lobbies to ease sanctions. The Corker-Graham legislation prohibits an extension.

The signal the U.S. is sending is that “we need them more than they need us,” a senior European policy maker told us. The Senate bill is the one stick available to change this exceedingly dangerous impression. A smart White House would grab it.....snip~

Obama, Congress and Iran - WSJ
Updated Oct. 14, 2014 <<<<< !


 
MMC said:
Leaks out of the talks suggest the Iranians are playing the U.S. and the other negotiating countries for more concessions
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remember when you believed

President Obama was born in Kenya
is a secret muslim terrorist
wants to kill old people
the stimulus will cause hyper inflation, dollar collapse, market to zero
Obamacare is a govt takeover of healthcare
Obamacere will destroy the economy
the stock market is a bubble
the auto bailout was an illegal bailout of unions
and the vile and disgusting "stand down" lies
 



I never believed most of that **** Vern....You didn't want to try and talk about what you don't know, do you Vern? I noticed you purposely missed what the Senior European policy maker stated. But then this isn't surprising coming from you. You didn't think you knew a whole lot about BO, now did ya?

What you got on when BO peep was living here and being a community activist? What was the dynamics of his relationship with Carol Mosley Braun? How did he get along with the Daley Family? Who was The Godfather of the Illinois House that BO had to get a blessing from?

Why wasn't BO peep involved with Jesse Jackson? Oh.....and why did BO lose to Bobby Rush for the Congressional seat? Back when MO was going to divorce him?

Cmon Vern, instead of talking about all those fake ass issues set up by the left. Lets see if you can cuddle up with what you know about YOUR MAN!
 
MMC said:
I never believed most of that **** Vern...
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congratulations, you were of the few cons never believed "most of that ****." But you just admitted two things. You believed some of that "****" and you know most of it was "****". see my problem, you don't seem to care that someone peddled that "****" to you. And now the same ones who peddled that "****" have you posting "Obama wants to help Iran get a nuke". See the problem?

I noticed you purposely missed what the Senior European policy maker stated
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no I didn't. I ignored what "a senior European policy maker" was quoted as saying in a WSJ editorial. Its possible "a" " senior European policy maker" really said that but it doesn't make it true. Remember the "****" you didn't believe before. Are you sure this just isn't more "****" from the same people? Remember when you believed the "unnamed" source that convinced you "stand down orders were issued" in Benghazi. Yea, I bet that in the "****" pile you believed.
 
MMC said:
Correction.....that would be 54 plus about 17 Demos going against BO peep.
But don't worry BO will put the blame on everybody else and how they are just picking on him. :lol:
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Counting your chickenhawks a little early don'tchathink ?
 
MMC said:
Its a done deal and BO wont be able to help Iran get their nuke. So it is a very good thing. Which Iran doesn't want to go war unless they have that Nuke.....as they are just as incompetent as the Arabs are.
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Why do you care about Iran having a nuke? And why do American Republicans get to decide that they cant have one?

Did Israel tell anyone they were making nukes? Anyone know how many Israel has? And most of the world thinks that the Israelis are war criminals. I dont but I dont see why Iran cant have a nuke. And as a global citizen I find this constant demonization of Iranians by Republicans to be offputting.

Anyway, China has nukes. Russia has them. India. Pakistan. North Korea. Why shouldnt Iran? Because they dont like Israel much? Then why do Israel get them?

As an Australian I want nukes. We have more uranium than any of you. The reason we dont have them is USA. USA wants us to have to rely on them. We dont need USA. We need our own nukes. All nations should have them.

Why does America get to decide? This is why I hate America. Who is American Republicans to decide this?

edit- the Republican party are fanatics.

edit- what the hell? Why does America decide? Is America the world government? WTF?????!!!!!!!

edit- oh my god I hate your country. The USD needs to be unseated.

edit- who do you Republicans think you are? You little supporters I mean. You think that the Republican party runs the world do you?

edit- who even supports the republican party these days? Cant be many. Less than half of you people ( American ) vote in last federal election and you Republicans lost. Yet you decide if Iran gets nukes or not?

Iran should end all communication with the US. Iran, Russia, China and the BRICS/NAM should cut you people off. Destroy your nation and liberate you people from the Dem-Rep duopoly. America is the worlds biggest problem.

edit- Why are the Republicans acting as world government?

edit- and this is a great example of why democracy needs to end. You Americans cant be trusted. If the CPC says something we can be sure that no democracy nonsense will change their decision but with America who knows what you will do? An election can change everything. And you think the Yuan cant be Reserve because China has no democracy? Having no democracy allows them to make plans and carry out reforms. Look how much trouble you have with health reforms. And will they stick? Can we trust you people? Or will you change your minds down the track?

Americans cannot be trusted. That is clear.

edit- Republicans.........
 
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Well Vern, I do believe that BO care is Govt take over of Healthcare and yes that it is affecting the Economy. Now the rest of what you listed is nothing more than BS. Oh and this wasn't the First European Policy maker to say something. Which the Date going back to Oct puts that into Perspective. Since the November deadline came and we are now on another delay and the Iranians have kept enriching the whole time. While working on their Ballistics. While sanctions were eased off.

Also Vern once again you are wrong in all of the Benghazi threads. I never talked about the Stand down Orders. Some more of that world of make believe you live in. One thing is clear.....you don't know much about Benghazi. So really you shouldn't talk about Benghazi since you don't know **** about it. That Bet you would lose.

Rather than Make **** up and use a cracked crystal ball Vern. Try sticking with my issues over Benghazi and Libya than that delusional world you live in. The same would go for Iran.
 
NIMBY said:
Counting your chickenhawks a little early don'tchathink ?
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No.....Rubio wouldn't be out telling the World of Media he has the votes. If he didn't.
 



It is both Democrats and Republicans with most of the planet that is concerned about Iran having a Nuke Weapon. More than likely they would use it, and would be out constantly threatening to use it.

Which as you know the Iranians are not so good with any smack talk and are easily offended. Kind of like the Arabs.
 

I’m sorry MM, my point was “why are you still listening to the same liars” and your flailing tells me “because they tell me what I want to believe ” And of course I was right when I said you believed the Benghazi “****”. If you can believe “President Obama wants Iran to get a nuke” it doesn’t take psychic powers to know you believe the vile and disgusting “stand down” lies.

And con, if you actually read just one of the reports from any of the first 7 investigations you too would know how vile and disgusting the “stand down” lies are. But part of your determination to believe “President Obama wants Iran to get a nuke” is based on you believing the the vile and disgusting “stand down” lies. United your delusions stand. so of course “the First European Policy maker” who WSJ assures you that he said what he said has to be right. Because you want it to be true. Again, remember when Fox assured you that an “unnamed source” said stand down orders were issued. 7 investigations later you amazingly still believe it.
 


Vern, do you know how you sound trying to tell others what they believe?
Also Vern I go by a lot of sources and then I weigh in. Which all around here pretty much know that. Unlike you and just using those BO Bot and Left talking points. Talking about Benghazi and what you don't know doesn't help your case. As the ones that were told to stand down weren't military. Which like I said Its never been my points to Benghazi. Which a lot of that comes in with BO peeps lies and his team.

Its like this with Benghazi Vern.....Who from the State Dept. Hired the Ansar al Sharia the enemy to attack us as security for Benghazi? Got that answer? Who gave Stevens an Order to meet the Turk Envoy in Benghazi on the Anniversary of 911 with all that date entails when the Turks no longer had an Embassy in Libya? Got that answer? Why was State involved in gathering up Manpads and how did those Manpads get to Syria? Let me give you a clue.....it comes down to 7 or 8 people in BO's team including BO himself. Also here is another clue for you with Benghazi and what you don't know about it nor never did.

That would be.....what was the Egyptian connection to Benghazi? Lets see if you can up some of those answers. That BO and the Democrats are looking to avoid.

Again Vern, the piece was from October of this year. Others from European countries have spoken out with the first delay. Which doesn't count Israel. BO peep knows that they are enriching. Knows they are playing with ballistic missiles. So you can't say he doesn't know. So he is technically enabling them due to his incompetence.
 

Iran has missed two deadlines now. The proverbial clock is running. Iran should not continue to benefit from an easing of sanctions unless it begins to make substantive concrete moves to resolve the nuclear issue. If Iran fails to reach agreement by the next deadline or Iran fails to address some of the IAEA's open questions, Congress should move on the sanctions front.
 
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