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US coronavirus deaths top 1,000 4 days in a row as experts urge shut down

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US coronavirus deaths top 1,000 4 days in a row as experts urge shut down

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7/26/20
As more Covid-19 records get broken, debates on whether to send kids back to school or to shut down the economy again are coming to a head.More than 1,000 people died every day for four straight days last week due to Covid-19. That brings the total US death toll from the virus to more than 146,000 as of Sunday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. And researchers project up to 175,000 deaths linked to the virus by August 15, according to an ensemble forecast published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. With overwhelmed hospitals and lengthy delays in testing, some local leaders -- including Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner and Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti -- said a second stay-at-home order might be possible. That kind of drastic measure is supported by more than 150 prominent medical experts, scientists, teachers, nurses and other experts who signed a letter urging leaders to shut the country down and start over to contain the rampant spread of the virus. "Right now, we are on a path to lose more than 200,000 American lives by November 1st. Yet, in many states people can drink in bars, get a haircut, eat inside a restaurant, get a tattoo, get a massage, and do myriad other normal, pleasant, but non-essential activities," read the letter, which was sent to the Trump administration.

In Texas, which broke a record for virus-related deaths last week, doctors inside one hospital may decide to send patients home to "die by their loved ones" due to limited resources, officials said. "Unfortunately, Starr County Memorial Hospital has limited resources and our doctors are going to have to decide who receives treatment, and who is sent home to die by their loved ones," Starr County Judge Eloy Vera wrote in a Facebook post on Thursday. "This is what we did not want our community to experience." President Donald Trump has said he's putting pressure on governors to reopen schools in a push to get the US back to business as usual.

Trump is again pushing to reopen businesses and schools while in some Texas counties "death panels" will begin deciding who receives ICU treatment and who is sent home to die.
 
Forget it, Republicans need the economy to get Trump reelected no matter how many people are killed to get it there (irony I know but I suspect full steam ahead will be the message from the Administration.)
 
US coronavirus deaths top 1,000 4 days in a row as experts urge shut down

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Trump is again pushing to reopen businesses and schools while in some Texas counties "death panels" will begin deciding who receives ICU treatment and who is sent home to die.

And the truly appalling fact is that there are still fools who believe all you'll get from this deadly pandemic is "the sniffles". Oh, and of course there's the 'socialist conspiracy' thing to bring down America. We have a few of those idiots here, I'm embarrassed to say. I believe they're also claiming to be adults, which is even more disturbing.
 
And the truly appalling fact is that there are still fools who believe all you'll get from this deadly pandemic is "the sniffles". Oh, and of course there's the 'socialist conspiracy' thing to bring down America. We have a few of those idiots here, I'm embarrassed to say. I believe they're also claiming to be adults, which is even more disturbing.

What I enjoy is seeing them blame a disease upon a political party that has no control over the disease and never did.
 
Forget it, Republicans need the economy to get Trump reelected no matter how many people are killed to get it there (irony I know but I suspect full steam ahead will be the message from the Administration.)

Then they deny the fact that Trump has helped to pump seven trillion dollars into the economy which doesn't believe in state capitalism...
 
Forget it, Republicans need the economy to get Trump reelected no matter how many people are killed to get it there (irony I know but I suspect full steam ahead will be the message from the Administration.)

the sad thing is "reopening" doenst magically fix the economy. People arent going to flock to bars, restaurants, theaters just becasue they can. I can fly to vegas and gamble because vegas is open and airlines stilly flying but I'm not. Not until there is a vaccine or treatment.
 
US coronavirus deaths top 1,000 4 days in a row as experts urge shut down

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Trump is again pushing to reopen businesses and schools while in some Texas counties "death panels" will begin deciding who receives ICU treatment and who is sent home to die.

Trump has no authority to open businesses that is the responsibility of the governors of the state, when you are going to take a Constitution Class and oh by the way shutting down the economy causes Unemployment NOT TRUMP
 
Trump has no authority to open businesses that is the responsibility of the governors of the state, when you are going to take a Constitution Class and oh by the way shutting down the economy causes Unemployment NOT TRUMP



Yeah, his supporters are a special kind of stupid.
 


Yeah, his supporters are a special kind of stupid.


Trump says a lot of things and you buy rhetoric vs actual reality. Trump doesn't have that authority as has been pointed out many times, the only time he would have that authority is under Marshall law which will never be declared over a virus that can be controlled with people reacting responsibly

Trump's authority is over federal structures and operations
 
Let’s see how the next 4 weeks go and if the new upwards curve flattens / starts to shift down.
 
don't reopen the schools.
 
the sad thing is "reopening" doenst magically fix the economy. People arent going to flock to bars, restaurants, theaters just becasue they can. I can fly to vegas and gamble because vegas is open and airlines stilly flying but I'm not. Not until there is a vaccine or treatment.

There are people in my county who are complaining that their neighbors are throwing huge parties and they were not invited to them. They are talking about crashing the parties because they want to party and listen to loud music. The lack of understanding about how dangerous large, indoor social gatherings are astounds me.
 
Trump has no authority to open businesses that is the responsibility of the governors of the state, when you are going to take a Constitution Class and oh by the way shutting down the economy causes Unemployment NOT TRUMP

Trump has pushed for people to protest and "liberate" their states from lockdowns. You may pretend he has no authority or responsibility, but his tweets have done plenty of damage on that front. You are correct that he is not responsible, but not in the way you mean.
 
the sad thing is "reopening" doenst magically fix the economy. People arent going to flock to bars, restaurants, theaters just becasue they can. I can fly to vegas and gamble because vegas is open and airlines stilly flying but I'm not. Not until there is a vaccine or treatment.

I cannot remember where I saw it...but it was suggested that this was Trumps plan for fixing Social Security.
 
Trump has pushed for people to protest and "liberate" their states from lockdowns. You may pretend he has no authority or responsibility, but his tweets have done plenty of damage on that front. You are correct that he is not responsible, but not in the way you mean.

What Trump says really seems to bother you, why? What Trump has done however is ignored

Table 1.1.5. Gross Domestic Product
[Billions of dollars]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: April 29, 2020 - Next Release Date May 28, 2020

Line 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019
Line
1 Gross domestic product 14712.8 14448.9 14992.1 15542.6 16197 16784.9 17527.3 18224.8 18715 19519.4 20580.2 21427.7
2 Personal consumption expenditures 9976.3 9842.2 10185.8 10641.1 11006.8 11317.2 11822.8 12284.3 12748.5 13312.1 13998.7 14562.7

this is the issue that puts food on the table, a roof over head, and clothes on the back. Social issues are state and local responsibilities
 
What Trump says really seems to bother you, why? What Trump has done however is ignored



this is the issue that puts food on the table, a roof over head, and clothes on the back. Social issues are state and local responsibilities

Except for the dead Americans, of course. They don't need jobs, food, clothes, or a roof. Maybe that's Trump's plan: "I've done such a great job that thousands upon thousands upon thousands of Americans will never have to work again, and I'm adding more by the day! Vote Trump in 2020, and maybe YOU won't have to work again either."

Something like that, Conservative?
 
What Trump says really seems to bother you, why? What Trump has done however is ignored
I have not ignored how much his poor response to COVID-19 has hurt our country, and what he has said during the pandemic has bothered me because it has cost lives. I am weird in that I care about the lives of fellow Americans and expect better from our leaders. Yes, the state leaders have made mistakes too, but leadership starts at the top, and so far, it has been fairly absent since January.

Table 1.1.5. Gross Domestic Product
[Billions of dollars]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: April 29, 2020 - Next Release Date May 28, 2020

Line 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019
Line
1 Gross domestic product 14712.8 14448.9 14992.1 15542.6 16197 16784.9 17527.3 18224.8 18715 19519.4 20580.2 21427.7
2 Personal consumption expenditures 9976.3 9842.2 10185.8 10641.1 11006.8 11317.2 11822.8 12284.3 12748.5 13312.1 13998.7 14562.7
this is the issue that puts food on the table, a roof over head, and clothes on the back. Social issues are state and local responsibilities
You realize the GDP is going to be in the red this year, right? Consumption will also be much lower this year.
 
Except for the dead Americans, of course. They don't need jobs, food, clothes, or a roof. Maybe that's Trump's plan: "I've done such a great job that thousands upon thousands upon thousands of Americans will never have to work again, and I'm adding more by the day! Vote Trump in 2020, and maybe YOU won't have to work again either."

Something like that, Conservative?

62% of all the COVID19 deaths came from Blue states and that is what you want to ignore. If the country blames Trump for the COVID19 deaths then we are all doomed to that nanny state where we have a President telling every American what to do. The destruction of our freedoms will be on full display.

Interesting how dead Americans now are of interest to you but 600,000 deaths per year of future Americans isn't, you are a hypocrite, a true radical whose agenda really is out to destroy the private sector as obviously you are incapable of competing
 
I have not ignored how much his poor response to COVID-19 has hurt our country, and what he has said during the pandemic has bothered me because it has cost lives. I am weird in that I care about the lives of fellow Americans and expect better from our leaders. Yes, the state leaders have made mistakes too, but leadership starts at the top, and so far, it has been fairly absent since January.


You realize the GDP is going to be in the red this year, right? Consumption will also be much lower this year.

Not necessarily as gov't spending is a component of GDP. We will generate a V shaped recovery as businesses open up.
 
Not necessarily as gov't spending is a component of GDP. We will generate a V shaped recovery as businesses open up.

I would not count on a V shaped recovery. With current trends, I would expect a sawtooth shaped sinusoidal wave.
 
62% of all the COVID19 deaths came from Blue states and that is what you want to ignore. If the country blames Trump for the COVID19 deaths then we are all doomed to that nanny state where we have a President telling every American what to do. The destruction of our freedoms will be on full display.

Interesting how dead Americans now are of interest to you but 600,000 deaths per year of future Americans isn't, you are a hypocrite, a true radical whose agenda really is out to destroy the private sector as obviously you are incapable of competing

Ah, so, when America does well, it's all about Trump, but when it's dying, anyone else's fault, huh? You were saying something about hypocrites? :lol:

And what 600,000 deaths a year are you talking about now?
 
I would not count on a V shaped recovery. With current trends, I would expect a sawtooth shaped sinusoidal wave.

Do you not understand that 62% of the deaths in this country for the virus have come from Blue states? why the focus on infections, not recovery or the very low death percentages? The American people aren't very happy being told what to do by bureaucrats

7/26/2020 Cases Deaths

United States 4,312,841 149145 3.5%

New York 411736 32608 7.9%

New Jersey 179363 15787 8.8%

Pennsylvania 107425 13513 12.6%

Massachusetts 115637 8529 7.4%

California 453659 8416 1.9%

Illinois 171424 7398 4.3%

Michigan 83730 6388 7.6% 92639 62.1% Top 7 state deaths and percentage of total

Florida 423855 5972 1.4%

Texas 381656 5038 1.3%

Canada 113911 8890 7.8%

England 299426 45752 15.3%
Coronavirus (COVID-19) live map tracker from Microsoft Bing
 
we're going in the wrong direction.


here's how i think we get the number of deaths down. require all death certificates sealed and sent only to the Trump Administration.
 
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