You mean walmart? The company that wraps themselves in the flag while encouraging suppliers to move their production to China?
any proof of that?
so when unions kill people or beat them up that is no worse than the police arresting union goons who are blocking business driveways or vandalizing the cars of workers trying to work?
Nope. I didn't say that. I am though trying to figure out why not going to a top 10 school makes you the "bottom of the barrel". If people want to be teachers, they will likely go to a place that has a pre-education major even if they were the smartest student in high school.
Although when I went to the University of Chicago (where pre-education, pre-law and pre-med are not majors), there was a philosophy major who was pretty much a genius and scored a perfect on LSAT - she said she wanted to be a kindergarten teacher...
Proof
Heck I thought we were all making up stories in this thread.
I didnt think we were looking for proof of anything. Just the most exagerated things a person can think off
yeah and a Marshall Scholar I went to Yale with dropped out of Yale Law to go teach at a yeshiva after he had some major life crisis that caused him to become an Orthodox jew after being non-observant most of his life but he was a rather rare exception. My three years of living in 8 man suites featured 9 who became Lawyers including one of Bush II's Attorney Generals, 6 who became doctors, one a chess International Master is a computer programmer and executive, another an actor and the one teacher teaches astrophysics in the top university Israel now. One guy died early (colon cancer at 29!) while working on wall street as an investment banker, and two I lost track of-both were premed. I can only think of a couple that were teachers-and one did that common two year stint at a prep school before going on to Cornell Law School
theplaydrive said:I am though trying to figure out why not going to a top 10 school makes you the "bottom of the barrel". If people want to be teachers, they will likely go to a place that has a pre-education major even if they were the smartest student in high school.
No I mean 99.99% of businesses in the United States.
Nobody wants THE MOB running their business..........
.....perhaps if there was ONE EXAMPLE IN WORLD HISTORY of a Union not running a business it infected into the ground......business owners might feel different.
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Walmart doesnt have to encourage US Businesses to relocate to China..........The end of a Democrat Whip is doing the job for them.
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How about the IBEW?
And BTW auto companies hurt themselves. The unions didn't do it. There are less union workers in the auto industry and it's still having issues. But executive pay has risen ten fold. But I know its PC these days to blame unions for bad management
Great. I'm happy for you, but my anecdote about the UofC was MEANT to be an exception to the rule (I'm glad we agree). Nonetheless, my actual criticism of your assumption still stands:
In other words, why would you go to a school (top 10 or not) if it doesn't have the major you want?
What about it?
Surely you hired Union Electricians to work on or install the electrical system in your home right?
Right.....the fact that Auto Companies are spending more on Pensions/Health Plans than actually producing their product..........has nothing to do with their downfall.
GM sales in 2007: 9,370,000
Toyota sales in 2007: 9,366,418
GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000
Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000
..........one made a profit......one had the UAW.
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What about it?
Surely you hired Union Electricians to work on or install the electrical system in your home right?
Right.....the fact that Auto Companies are spending more on Pensions/Health Plans than actually producing their product..........has nothing to do with their downfall.
GM sales in 2007: 9,370,000
Toyota sales in 2007: 9,366,418
GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000
Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000
They both sold the same number of cars.........one made a profit......one had the UAW.
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What about it?
Surely you hired Union Electricians to work on or install the electrical system in your home right?
Right.....the fact that Auto Companies are spending more on Pensions/Health Plans than actually producing their product..........has nothing to do with their downfall.
GM sales in 2007: 9,370,000
Toyota sales in 2007: 9,366,418
GM profit/loss in 2007: -$38,730,000,000
Toyota profit in 2007: +$17,146,000,000
They both sold the same number of cars.........one made a profit......one had the UAW.
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Why didn't the companies invest the money if they knew they were going to agree to legacy costs? That is like working all week and at the end the boss says you cost too much. They knew the costs going in and agreed with them.
And by that way I have had IBEW guys work for me.
dozens of news programs have noted that the teaching profession is not drawing the best and the brightest of our highschool and college students.
Kihn & Miller: Why aren't America's teachers the best and brightest?
So why do top U.S. college students have so little interest in teaching careers compared with their counterparts in the world's best-performing nations
A teaching career does not offer our nation's top college graduates a compelling peer group, opportunities for continued learning or the prestige of other professions
One had exceptional American management
One had good Japanese management
Well here is the negotiation that takes place between Unions and GM/Any business............
"Put the Money In the Bag, or Were Gonna Shut You Down"
.......what would you do if you were GM?
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Of course you have..........and the crowds at EVIL Walmart are all Black Republicans.........
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BTW the graph doesn't give a breakdown of costs. From what I understand Toyota executives don't make what GM execs did. Especially in 2007. And the other thing is GM built ugly ass cars. That isn't the unions fault either.
I agree with this - most people who go to top tier schools or who are the top in non-pre-education majors don't become teachers (which is why our stories are the exception). I'm still failing to see that teachers are the "bottom of the barrel". Why aren't they just average as people in other professions with a few being extremely smart or stupid? What makes them the "bottom of the barrel"?
And what evidence is there that teachers go into the profession because they aren't the "best and brightest"? We've already established that there isn't any evidence that they go in for the summer break.
I think you watch too much TV. If I were GM I would have built cars people wanted.
I would have stayed out of the mortgage business and a host of other side business and concentrated on my main business. Cars.
But thats just me. Ford did OK with unions and all.
try this from 2006
look at the test scores for various intended professions
http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/about/news_info/cbsenior/yr2006/national-report.pdf
other than farming, home ec and vocational programs education was pretty much the lowest
health and allied sciences-nurses-physical therapists, massage therapists, nutritionistsThanks. I didn't think to look there. Students intending to major in education definitely have some of the lowest - but so do business/commerce and Health/Allied Services, two groups that would likely turn out some successful businessmen and doctors and yet ones like Language and Literature/Foreign or Classical Languages which would likely turn out teachers & professors have the highest.
Inconclusive. You could definitely argue that teachers are the bottom if you look at their scores alone - but considering that they're in the same area as pre-meds and pre-business people are and that literature/language people (who will likely be teachers at some level) are the highest, the argument doesn't stand very well.
health and allied sciences-nurses-physical therapists, massage therapists, nutritionists
pre med students tend to study chemistry and biology. look at the scores for physical sciences
do you understand how difficult it is to get into a medical school these days?
Business threatens unions. Try to start one at Walmart. ha ha
You mean fascist loving bussiness
Ones with jackbooted gun totin thugs ( ie police)
How about the IBEW? And BTW auto companies hurt themselves. The unions didn't do it. There are less union workers in the auto industry and it's still having issues. But executive pay has risen ten fold. But I know its PC these days to blame unions for bad management
BTW the graph doesn't give a breakdown of costs. From what I understand Toyota executives don't make what GM execs did. Especially in 2007. And the other thing is GM built ugly ass cars. That isn't the unions fault either.
Newsvine - CEO of GM makes 14 times What CEO of toyota makes.. but we are to be outrraged the employees get double what toyota employees make. -- Now don't say I never gave ya' nothin'.This year, Wagoner will pull down a salary of $2.2 million, in addition to other CEO perks. And last year, Wagoner's total compensation was $14.4 million. That works out to $39,452.05 per day, including weekends. (Note that in 2007, GM lost a staggering $38.7 billion).....For example, the estimated pay of Toyota's CEO in 2005 was under $1 million.
I think you watch too much TV. If I were GM I would have built cars people wanted. I would have stayed out of the mortgage business and a host of other side business and concentrated on my main business. Cars. But thats just me. Ford did OK with unions and all.
Thanks. I didn't think to look there. Students intending to major in education definitely have some of the lowest - but so do business/commerce and Health/Allied Services, two groups that would likely turn out some successful businessmen and doctors and yet ones like Language and Literature/Foreign or Classical Languages which would likely turn out teachers & professors have the highest.
Inconclusive. You could definitely argue that teachers are the bottom if you look at their scores alone - but considering that they're in the same area as pre-meds and pre-business people are and that literature/language people (who will likely be teachers at some level) are the highest, the argument doesn't stand very well.
Teachers don't have to be rocket scientists. They teach from books, for God's sake. What they need to be are motivators. Those rare breeds who can reach inside a student's head and make him want to learn. Where's that in the curriculum???
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