Post 1 shows individuals who are part of a union making a decision to boycott some business, I didnt not see where the Wisconsin governnent decided to boycott those business`s. Perhaps you can show me where the Wisconsin goverment made the decision to boycott those business`s it would be appreciated.
As for boycotting union services, I do that everyday. I am not part of a union and have no current intention on doing so. You I expect are doing the same
So the entirety of the Wisconsin Public Work Force "is not the government"........in your book anyways.
Wrong........to boycott Union Thug Services would entail you taking your tax dollars and spending them elsewhere.........
........to conduct such a boycott.......would end with THE MOB sending men with guns to your door to help you reconsider.
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WRONG. There are so many studies on this and it is an accepted fact in the education community. Illinois has always been known as one of the worse states for equal and appropriate funding of its schools. Chicago has been known as a horrible place for equal education funding and racial/economic disparities in education. You should know this. Here's one study that sums it up very well.
Money is a small part of the problem. There is absolutely no proof that spending more money helps students. NY is my proof. Are you saying the whole state of New York is over-weighted in special needs kids? Kids with socio-economic problems? Even if that were true, which it is not, it is still evidence that money alone will not solve that problem.
Every school district in Illinois has separate classes for special needs kids. I don't know what you're talking about.
And you are wrong
I am not using union services, as I am not part of a union. I do occasionally use government services
You continually fail to understand that what people do outside of work is their own business and does not mean it is a policy of their employer
hmmmm....i googled that 'UNION THUG SERVICES INC.'...that you keep mentioning , strange, could not find anything...wonder why that would be?....perhaps it is because it doenst exist?So your "boycott of UNION THUG SERVICES INC"......entails you giving UTS the money.....but refuse the service.
.....that will show them!
So its outside of their work......
James L. Palmer, Executive Director
Wisconsin Professional Police Association
Mahlon Mitchell,President
Professional Professional Fire Fighters
Jim Conway, President
International Association of Fire Fighters Local 311
John Matthews, Execuctive Director
Madison Teachers, Inc.
Keith Patt, Executive Director
Green Bay Education Association
Bob Richardson, President
Dane County Deputy Sheriffs Association
Dan Frei, Prersident
Madison Professional Police Officers Association
.....strange......they used their work titles......and listed their Government associations.......
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In which you claimed Boycotts are similar to mobster tactics?
And policemen, firemen, public utility workers, and TEACHERS are "piss poor Americans?"
Yeah, we saw it.
.More evidence of Fox News misinformation working on their viewing audience
Promise?
Home school your kids.
...still have to pay for Subprime Union Public Schools
Don't drive on public roads.
.......just foot the bill
.And don't bother the police with complaints.
RIght....just bother with paying the tab.
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Like all Public Options....there is but one option.....and only one option
There most certainly is proof that smaller class room size, increased instruction time, and separate classes for special needs kids do improve test scores, and all of those things require increased funding. And yes the large urban populations of NY affect the state average.
Perhaps in an unionized state that might be the case. Good on them! In non-union states, inclusion of special needs kids in the regular classroom is the norm.
hmmmm....i googled that 'UNION THUG SERVICES INC.'...that you keep mentioning , strange, could not find anything...wonder why that would be?....perhaps it is because it doenst exist?
hmmmm....i googled that 'UNION THUG SERVICES INC.'...that you keep mentioning , strange, could not find anything...wonder why that would be?....perhaps it is because it doenst exist?
only 300 bucks for a good kneecapping? damn...just damn.....back in the day that was a grand easy......i know times are tough and all, but only 300? i miss the good ol' days.Actually we went out of business. The most we could get for kneecapping was $300.00 bucks and we just could not find the talent to do it right anymore. Back in the old days there were always a few kids willing to prove their chops and do those starting jobs like breaking thumbs, gouging eyes and hassling somebody's kids outside their school just to throw the fear of the union into them. But sadly, the good old days are gone and now their are but a distant memory of a better time. I think Jimmy Hoffa would roll over in his grave in the endzone of that football stadium if he could see our union leaders today eating quiche and sipping on white wine bribing politicians with Mexican time shares.
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
I fail to see how your study shows that Chicago is a horrible place for equal education funding and racial/economic disparities in education.
There is absolutely no proof that spending more money helps students.
So your "boycott of UNION THUG SERVICES INC"......entails you giving UTS the money.....but refuse the service.
.....that will show them!
So its outside of their work......
James L. Palmer, Executive Director
Wisconsin Professional Police Association
Mahlon Mitchell,President
Professional Professional Fire Fighters
Jim Conway, President
International Association of Fire Fighters Local 311
John Matthews, Execuctive Director
Madison Teachers, Inc.
Keith Patt, Executive Director
Green Bay Education Association
Bob Richardson, President
Dane County Deputy Sheriffs Association
Dan Frei, Prersident
Madison Professional Police Officers Association
.....strange......they used their work titles......and listed their Government associations.......
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Not necessarily increased funding. Reallocation of funds from their budgets would accomplish the very same thing. Spent more money on students. Less on administration. Less on legal fees. Less on nonteaching positions. This is such a slippery eel no one can get their arms around it -- other than to say: We Need More $$$$!!!
Really? Do you have a link for that?
The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court declared that Massachusetts had failed its constitutional duty “to provide education in the public schools for the children there enrolled, whether they be rich or poor and without regard to the fiscal capacity of the community or district in which such children live”.[...] Days later, after a special session of the legislature, the governor signed the Education Reform Act of 1993, which changed the way schools are funded in Massachusetts. During the following 10 years, from 1993 to 2003, state education funding increased by 12 percent a year, with a total price tag of about $30.8 billion. The additional state money was targeted to schools attended by poor students and went for tutoring programs, additional training for teachers, smaller classes, and technology.[...]This year’s results on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) demonstrated the effect of such focused efforts. Fourth-graders and eighth-graders in Massachusetts outperformed students in every other state in both reading and math. To give a sense of the improvement, in 1992, just 23 percent of Massachusetts’s fourth-graders were proficient in NAEP’s math standards; in 2005, 49 percent were proficient.
You are a piece of work. Those were two separate points. Point 1. You should know that Chicago is a horrible place for equal education/disparities. If you read the study it specifically, albeit briefly, mentions Illinois as one of the worst states. Point 2. The study was meant to answer your frequent, ignorant assertion that:
I assume that you realize that the study and the reality of MA school reform prove your point wrong or else you would have had more to say than: what does that have to do with Chicago?
I dont give my money to the union, I dont buy any Union services
I may buy a car from Ford, and pay taxes to the government but I do not use any UNION services
Please show me a UNION service that I use, not a service that might be provided by person who might be part of a union. It is a very important distinction mind you
1. Increased funding by 12% per year.
2. Money directed to poor schools.
3. Smaller classrooms, tutoring programs, technology, training.
4. Literacy jumps by 26%.
answer the man's questions...show and tell time....you made a claim, time to back it up.Sure you do......via Federal Income Taxes, State Income Taxes, Property Taxes, Sales Taxes, City Income Taxes.....
If you stretch any farther.....your risking dislocation.....
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Sure you do......via Federal Income Taxes, State Income Taxes, Property Taxes, Sales Taxes, City Income Taxes.....
If you stretch any farther.....your risking dislocation.....
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I pay the money to the government not the union. The government then uses that money to buy goods, services and income support for some. I did not buy any union service
strange, i've never had the government take money from me by gunpoint...try again?Wrong......Government takes the money from you, at gunpoint if necessary.....and gives it to the Union.
The Union Circle of Theft
From The Taxpayer......To Statist Government....To Union Slobs....To the Union....and back to Statist Politicians......
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Not necessarily increased funding. Reallocation of funds from their budgets would accomplish the very same thing. Spent more money on students. Less on administration. Less on legal fees. Less on nonteaching positions. This is such a slippery eel no one can get their arms around it -- other than to say: We Need More $$$$!!!
Really? Do you have a link for that?
strange, i've never had the government take money from me by gunpoint...try again?
It doesnt give it to the union, they have to purchase the services of the workers who happen to be in the union. The people in the Union pay for union services I do notWrong......Government takes the money from you, at gunpoint if necessary.....and gives it to the Union.
The Union Circle of Theft
From The Taxpayer......To Statist Government....To Union Slobs....To the Union....and back to Statist Politicians......
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I'm getting very tired of your personal attacks, TPD. Whatever it mentioned "albeit briefly" should have been cited in your quote.
Not at all. Your example was more than beat into the ground by statistics in New York State that I posted earlier. We can both cherry pick all day long...the fact remains that money alone (Catawba's ridiculous comparion to our military spending) will do nothing to give students a better education. It's how that money is spent. If you can't accept that statement as true, I really can't help you.
There is absolutely no proof that spending more money helps students.
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