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"Unconscious bias" is the Emperor's new clothes for our time. It can't be seen or measured but they say it must be fought. It's quotas in disguise. Here we have some dangerous nonsense.
Feds urged to fight ‘unconscious bias’ in hiring and promotions
As dangerous as it was, battling overt segregation during the civil rights era was in some ways easier than combating today’s insidious racism.
At least you could see the “white only” signs and you knew who was behind them.
Those signs are long gone, but racism, sexism and other forms of discrimination didn’t go with them. They are among us, often hidden, yet potent. The perpetrators of this prejudice would never call themselves bigots and might not even realize they act like one.
Beth Cobert, the acting Office of Personnel Management director, is urging federal officials to confront this unseen, but not unfelt, discrimination.
“As many of you know, one of the most challenging barriers to diversity and inclusion is unconscious bias,” she said at OPM’s diversity and inclusion summit at the Coast Guard headquarters Tuesday. “It’s difficult to grapple with because it is unconscious — not as obvious as calling out someone for using improper language or overtly passing someone over for a promotion. Probably the most unconscious bias exhibited during the hiring process is the ‘like me’ bias. The ‘like me’ bias means leaders and managers typically look to hire or promote people who look like themselves. A white male will select a white male, for example.” . . .
Unconscious bias? Seriously? This is beyond indefensible.
You don't think there are more subtle aspects of racism than "NO BLACKS" signs?
To assume that everyone makes every decision based on nefarious, unconscious, hateful, racist bias and to counter that the government must impose arbitrary, capricious, and subjective counter-measures is an indefensible position for the government to take.
It's also not a position anyone is taking.
"Unconscious bias" is the Emperor's new clothes for our time. It can't be seen or measured but they say it must be fought. It's quotas in disguise. Here we have some dangerous nonsense.
Feds urged to fight ‘unconscious bias’ in hiring and promotions
As dangerous as it was, battling overt segregation during the civil rights era was in some ways easier than combating today’s insidious racism.
At least you could see the “white only” signs and you knew who was behind them.
Those signs are long gone, but racism, sexism and other forms of discrimination didn’t go with them. They are among us, often hidden, yet potent. The perpetrators of this prejudice would never call themselves bigots and might not even realize they act like one.
Beth Cobert, the acting Office of Personnel Management director, is urging federal officials to confront this unseen, but not unfelt, discrimination.
“As many of you know, one of the most challenging barriers to diversity and inclusion is unconscious bias,” she said at OPM’s diversity and inclusion summit at the Coast Guard headquarters Tuesday. “It’s difficult to grapple with because it is unconscious — not as obvious as calling out someone for using improper language or overtly passing someone over for a promotion. Probably the most unconscious bias exhibited during the hiring process is the ‘like me’ bias. The ‘like me’ bias means leaders and managers typically look to hire or promote people who look like themselves. A white male will select a white male, for example.” . . .
The government is. Read the OP.
Bias can be demonstrated regarding male versus female, old versus young, blonde verses brunette, blue eyes versus brown eyes, first generation American versus tenth generation American, English as first language versus English as second language, long hair versus short hair, military veteran versus no military service at all, college educated versus high school dropout, married versus single, parent versus no children, Catholic versus Protestant, Shiite versus Sunni, tattoos versus no tattoos, and so on.
The government is. Read the OP.
"Unconscious bias" is the Emperor's new clothes for our time. It can't be seen or measured but they say it must be fought. It's quotas in disguise. Here we have some dangerous nonsense.
Feds urged to fight ‘unconscious bias’ in hiring and promotions
As dangerous as it was, battling overt segregation during the civil rights era was in some ways easier than combating today’s insidious racism.
At least you could see the “white only” signs and you knew who was behind them.
Those signs are long gone, but racism, sexism and other forms of discrimination didn’t go with them. They are among us, often hidden, yet potent. The perpetrators of this prejudice would never call themselves bigots and might not even realize they act like one.
Beth Cobert, the acting Office of Personnel Management director, is urging federal officials to confront this unseen, but not unfelt, discrimination.
“As many of you know, one of the most challenging barriers to diversity and inclusion is unconscious bias,” she said at OPM’s diversity and inclusion summit at the Coast Guard headquarters Tuesday. “It’s difficult to grapple with because it is unconscious — not as obvious as calling out someone for using improper language or overtly passing someone over for a promotion. Probably the most unconscious bias exhibited during the hiring process is the ‘like me’ bias. The ‘like me’ bias means leaders and managers typically look to hire or promote people who look like themselves. A white male will select a white male, for example.” . . .
You believe that an acting director 'urging' people to act against something is the same thing as "the government must impose arbitrary, capricious, and subjective counter-measures"? :lol:
So because they do exist, people should not be urged to be aware of and counteract their unconscious biases?
Besides age - which happens to everyone indiscriminately - race and sex are the biggest areas of bias, both conscious and unconscious, and least controllable (or hideable) characteristics, in modern Western societies.
Honestly I was predisposed to dismissiveness of complaints along these lines, having had a relative who often posted seemingly trivial and definitely unpersuasive complaints along such lines on Facebook. My response was (and is) that as far as the legal/government side of things go, we're getting pretty close to mission accomplished; question marks over women in direct combat military roles, abortion access, gender-neutral child custody/support payment rulings, and gender-neutral parental leave notwithstanding.
But you too evidently acknowledge that outside the legal framework, bias still persists in areas like hiring and promotion: So exactly how can it be considered a bad thing for people to recognise that fact?
No, that interpretation is so absurd it's clear you didn't even click the link to read the article. You just made up one in your head.
I read the OP article. [on second thought - deleted]
No, that interpretation is so absurd it's clear you didn't even click the link to read the article. You just made up one in your head.
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