UN Climate Cult Declares War on Farmers, Demands Meat Tax

[PoS]

Watch: At COP29, UN speakers declare war on farmers: ‘Producers of meat & dairy should pay for the damage they cause [to climate]’ – Call for ‘Meat Tax’

At #COP29Azerbaijan, Jeroom Remmers says “Producers of meat & dairy should pay for the damage they cause [to climate]. It’s normal, when I damage the window of my neighbor, I have to repa…

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https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/26/business/denmark-cows-carbon-tax/index.html

Thats right. These climate lunatics say they hate meat, and want to ban it altogether to "save" the earth lol. This is the kind of religious fascism the climate cult wants. From destroying works of art to forcing vegetarianism, its a neoluddite movement that aims to bring humanity back to the stone age.

 

[dmpi]

We don't want you to eat less meat, rather we want you to pay us carbon credits to compensate us for our imaginary damage. It's all one giant money grab where first world countries free themselves from guilt by transfering wealth to 2nd and 3rd would countries.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The cult is at it again...

i would like to know how he comes up with 20%.

 

[Lord of Planar]

REMMERS: “And we also want to give some of the revenues of those taxes to consumers to reduce prices of healthy foods like vegetables, fruits and plant-based meat.

Wealth redistribution huh...

And on top of that, if there’s some money left, it’s really important, we should also pay for the loss and damage funds, because when we eat meat and dairy, this is causing like 20% of all greenhouses gas emissions, so it’s damaging a lot of things in the world. Climate change is caused 20% by meat and dairy, so the producers of meat and dairy should pay for the damage they cause.

OK now, this guy is a stupid talking head. He says 20% greenhouse gasses, then repeats the 20% for climate change, which is completely untrue. there are other factors besides greenhouse gasses.

It’s normal, when I damage the window of my neighbor, I have to repair this damage, but meat and dairy processors also have to repair the damage they cause on others and in the future. So, thank you for the question.”

Comparing tangible damage to imagined damage. Is this guy demented?

 

[Ganondagan]

Watch: At COP29, UN speakers declare war on farmers: ‘Producers of meat & dairy should pay for the damage they cause [to climate]’ – Call for ‘Meat Tax’

At #COP29Azerbaijan, Jeroom Remmers says “Producers of meat & dairy should pay for the damage they cause [to climate]. It’s normal, when I damage the window of my neighbor, I have to repa…

www.climatedepot.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/26/business/denmark-cows-carbon-tax/index.html

Thats right. These climate lunatics say they hate meat, and want to ban it altogether to "save" the earth lol. This is the kind of religious fascism the climate cult wants. From destroying works of art to forcing vegetarianism, its a neoluddite movement that aims to bring humanity back to the stone age.

I'd love to see the menus for the meals these delegates are served at this conference.

 

[PoS]

I'd love to see the menus for the meals these delegates are served at this conference.

LOL check this out. Gotta love the hypocrisy!

 

[Lord of Planar]

If anybody wants a realistic view on the climate, it's a long read, but read this:

https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2024/05/Curry-2024-GWPF-Lecture.pdf

 

[Individual]

How much damage is done by travel to these meeting places, and who is paying the costs?

 

[Loulit01]

Koch brothers funded "charity" organization. Please.

 

[Volunteer]

Watch: At COP29, UN speakers declare war on farmers: ‘Producers of meat & dairy should pay for the damage they cause [to climate]’ – Call for ‘Meat Tax’

At #COP29Azerbaijan, Jeroom Remmers says “Producers of meat & dairy should pay for the damage they cause [to climate]. It’s normal, when I damage the window of my neighbor, I have to repa…

www.climatedepot.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/26/business/denmark-cows-carbon-tax/index.html

Thats right. These climate lunatics say they hate meat, and want to ban it altogether to "save" the earth lol. This is the kind of religious fascism the climate cult wants. From destroying works of art to forcing vegetarianism, its a neoluddite movement that aims to bring humanity back to the stone age.

Agriculture is responsible for approx 10% - 12% of global anthropogenic greenhouse gas emisions (GHG) and livestock accounts for nearly 80% of agriculture's GHG. Agriculture accounts for approx half of all anthropogenic methane emissions. Methane is a particularly destructive greenhouse gas and contributes to warming of the planet.

So...yes we should reduce our overconsumption of meat.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Agriculture is responsible for approx 10% - 12% of global anthropogenic greenhouse gas emisions (GHG) and livestock accounts for nearly 80% of agriculture's GHG. Agriculture accounts for approx half of all anthropogenic methane emissions. Methane is a particularly destructive greenhouse gas and contributes to warming of the planet.

So...yes we should reduce our overconsumption of meat.

That statement is incorrect. Now if they are claiming some CO2 equivalent number, and using GWP to get it, the numbers may crunch right, but it is still a lie.

Source please.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Global greenhouse gas emissions amounted to roughly 57 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent (GtCO₂e) in 2023.​

Global GHG emission shares by sector 2023 | Statista

Global greenhouse gas emissions amounted to roughly 57 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent (GtCO₂e) in 2023.

www.statista.com

CO2 equivalent emissions is not Greenhouse gas emissions. When discussion a topic of science, accuracy is very important.

 

[longview]

Agriculture is responsible for approx 10% - 12% of global anthropogenic greenhouse gas emisions (GHG) and livestock accounts for nearly 80% of agriculture's GHG. Agriculture accounts for approx half of all anthropogenic methane emissions. Methane is a particularly destructive greenhouse gas and contributes to warming of the planet.

So...yes we should reduce our overconsumption of meat.

Well the EPA says this,
EPS Sources of greenhouse gas emissions Ag accounts for 10%,

Agriculture – Greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture come from livestock such as cows, agricultural soils, and rice production. Indirect emissions from electricity use in agricultural activities (e.g., powering buildings and equipment) are about 5 percent of direct emissions.

So the livestock themselves account for something less than 5%.
As for methane,
NOAA Trends in Atmospheric Methane (CH4)
Let say that ALL of the growth in CH4 is from livestock.
Over the last 30 years that represents an increase from 1650 to 1950 ppb.
Since CH4 breaks down into CO2 one for one rather quickly, the theorized forcing from
30 years of AG operations (That feed the planet) would be a CO2 increase of 3 ppm, an amount so low as to not
really be recordable.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Well the EPA says this,
EPS Sources of greenhouse gas emissions Ag accounts for 10%,

So the livestock themselves account for something less than 5%.
As for methane,
NOAA Trends in Atmospheric Methane (CH4)
Let say that ALL of the growth in CH4 is from livestock.
Over the last 30 years that represents an increase from 1650 to 1950 ppb.
Since CH4 breaks down into CO2 one for one rather quickly, the theorized forcing from
30 years of AG operations (That feed the planet) would be a CO2 increase of 3 ppm, an amount so low as to not
really be recordable.

Do you think the indoctrinated know how to think at those mental levels?

 

[longview]

Do you think the indoctrinated know how to think at those mental levels?

Yes if they are open to reason!

 

[Volunteer]

Polluters do not voluntarily clean the air, water, and land that they foul up. If they did then we could do away with a whole world of government regulations. Can't we all agree on that goal - reduction of regulations?

 

[PoS]

Agriculture is responsible for approx 10% - 12% of global anthropogenic greenhouse gas emisions (GHG) and livestock accounts for nearly 80% of agriculture's GHG. Agriculture accounts for approx half of all anthropogenic methane emissions. Methane is a particularly destructive greenhouse gas and contributes to warming of the planet.

So...yes we should reduce our overconsumption of meat.

Why do you hate humanity so much?

 

[longview]

Polluters do not voluntarily clean the air, water, and land that they foul up. If they did then we could do away with a whole world of government regulations. Can't we all agree on that goal - reduction of regulations?

The whole premise of the idea is off!
The article says 20% of all greenhouse gases are produced by meat and dairy production.
The EPA says 10% of greenhouse gases are from agriculture, of which 5% of that is from the energy used in agriculture. Both numbers cannot be correct!

 

[Volunteer]

The whole premise of the idea is off!
The article says 20% of all greenhouse gases are produced by meat and dairy production.
The EPA says 10% of greenhouse gases are from agriculture, of which 5% of that is from the energy used in agriculture. Both numbers cannot be correct!

Yes, it is estimated that 10-12% of anthropogenic greenhouse gases are from agriculture.

 

[longview]

Yes, it is estimated that 10-12% of anthropogenic greenhouse gases are from agriculture.

So is the article lying when they said that meat and dairy cause 20% of all greenhouse gases?

 

[Steve Case]

Agriculture is responsible for approx 10% - 12% of global anthropogenic greenhouse gas emisions (GHG) and livestock accounts for nearly 80% of agriculture's GHG. Agriculture accounts for approx half of all anthropogenic methane emissions. Methane is a particularly destructive greenhouse gas and contributes to warming of the planet.

So...yes we should reduce our overconsumption of meat.

"Methane is a particularly destructive greenhouse gas and contributes to warming of the planet."

In what way is methane destructive?
A clear coherent answer would be nice.
How much is methane going to contribute to global warming over what time period?
The usual time period is by the end of the century.
Your answer should in degrees or Kelvins.
And you should provide a link and or show your work.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The whole premise of the idea is off!
The article says 20% of all greenhouse gases are produced by meat and dairy production.
The EPA says 10% of greenhouse gases are from agriculture, of which 5% of that is from the energy used in agriculture. Both numbers cannot be correct!

I pointed out in an earlier post that the data used is the stupid metric CO2 Equivalent, which of course uses the GWP of methane for the calculations.

These true believers cannot even recount the facts of an article correctly.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Yes, it is estimated that 10-12% of anthropogenic greenhouse gases are from agriculture.

Bullshit.

The number is Equivalent CO2. A stupid metric that is incorrectly used even.

 

[Volunteer]

So is the article lying when they said that meat and dairy cause 20% of all greenhouse gases?

From your article, "In 2022, direct greenhouse gas emissions from the agriculture sector accounted for 9.4% of total U.S. greenhouse gas emissions."

 

[Volunteer]

Bullshit.

The number is Equivalent CO2. A stupid metric that is incorrectly used even.

What number do you have?