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Ukrainian kill ratio spikes under Trump!

Juin

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Under Senile Joe Ukraine could only manage a 10-1 kill ratio on Russians. Under Trump this ratio has spiked to 14-1. A 40% increase in kill ratio. What is amazing is that this spike has been by a much depleted Ukrainian Army, hampered by manpower shortages, reduced aid from allies and against a much reinforced Russian Army with vastly more drones and missiles. Very impressive! If we eliminate lopsided kill ratios in wars where vastly technologically superior European armies faced say Zulus armed with spears, it is hard to find a better kill ratio in history where an army faced a technologically equal or better adversary. Zelensky's kill ratio even beats that of Hannibal Barca against the Romans at the famous battle of Cannae. Hannibal's kill ratio at Cannae was 11-1. That places Zelensky above Napoleon Bonaparte and Hitler.

So why is Zelensky asking for a ceasefire? At a 14-1 kill ratio Zelensky should be aiming for Vladivostok at the other end of Russia. Sen Lindsey Graham wants nothing better than to see Zelensky's panzers charge towards Vladivostok at full speed. UK Prime Minister Keir Stammer as well. Germany's Merz as well. So what is holding up Zelensky's panzers?

So far the only person holding up Zelensky appears to be Trump. But it makes no sense. It is Trump's own numbers that give the 14-1 kill ratio. Those are impressive performances. Unmatched in history. Why the cold feet by Trump? What kill ratio will convince Trump to remove the reins on Zelensky?

Trump posted the figures on his Truth Social. From January to end of July Russia lost 112,500 soldiers according to Trump's figures. In the same time frame Ukraine lost 8,000. That is a 14-1 kill ratio in favour of Ukraine.





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I have just been informed that almost 20,000 Russian soldiers died this month in the ridiculous War with Ukraine. Russia has lost 112,500 soldiers since the beginning of the year. That is a lot of unnecessary DEATH! Ukraine, however, has also suffered greatly. They have lost approximately 8,000 soldiers since January 1, 2025, and that number does not include their missing. Ukraine has also lost civilians, but in smaller numbers, as Russian rockets crash into Kyiv, and other Ukrainian locales. This is a War that
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Truth Social

Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.
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Juin said:
Under Senile Joe Ukraine could only manage a 10-1 kill ratio on Russians. Under Trump this ratio has spiked to 14-1. A 40% increase in kill ratio.
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So you're taking a brief break from posting Russian shill threads to insecurely cope about Putin dropping the soap over and over again and then awkwardly pivot to turn this into some kind of victory for Trump?

lol
 
Gozaburo said:
So you're taking a brief break from posting Russian shill threads to insecurely cope about Putin dropping the soap over and over again and then awkwardly pivot to turn this into some kind of victory for Trump?

lol
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Why do you care? You have an Ignore button, use it
 
the KIA numbers are not to be believed. Both Ukraine and Russia keep their military losses under wraps while regularly claiming, without providing proof, to have inflicted heavy losses on each other.

Record high deaths in the Russia-Ukraine war: What you should know

Recent reports suggest a million people killed to date, with a high civilian death toll in Ukraine over the summer.
www.aljazeera.com
 
That doesn't sound like peace deal in 24 hours.
 
Who says he's asking for a ceasefire? The most recent news I see involving Zelensky and a ceasefire is 2+ weeks ago, which is likely before Trump pivoted to saying he's tired of Putin's stalling, which means Zelensky was probably doing it to humor Trump who wants to score peacemaker points even if it's just a temporary ceasefire and not a lasting peace.
 
Gozaburo said:
So you're taking a brief break from posting Russian shill threads to insecurely cope about Putin dropping the soap over and over again and then awkwardly pivot to turn this into some kind of victory for Trump?

lol
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If the war was actually going well for Ukraine the US would not be resorting to ever more laughably inflated claims about Russian KIA to soothe its ego.
 
Tigerace117 said:
If the war was actually going well for Ukraine the US would not be resorting to ever more laughably inflated claims about Russian KIA to soothe its ego.
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I've maintained in other threads that it's highly unlikely Ukraine will "win" this war.

But Russia has already spent so much blood and treasure that we're past the point of a pyrrhic victory. Permanent economic and political damage, hundreds of thousands dead, workforce destroyed, international reputation damaged, etc.

All of that for 4 oblasts and a rump state which the West will be able to militarize in the future anyway. Russia would've been better off accepting their vassal status under American hegemonic rule and cooperating with us against China. Instead Putin wants to LARP as a pariah state.
 
There’s no such thing as “permanent political damage”. The idea that Russia is a “pariah” outside of, like, Europe and a few scattered Pacific countries is a joke. Most of the world simply doesn’t care enough about the conflict for such a label to be true, or views the West’s posturing about it as laughably hypocritical.

America is not a trustworthy “ally” in the first place.
 

Indeed. Fodder for propaganda but also operational security.
 
Tigerace117 said:
There’s no such thing as “permanent political damage”. The idea that Russia is a “pariah” outside of, like, Europe and a few scattered Pacific countries is a joke.
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Actually hilarious that you're dismissive of a country having pariah status among 90% of the worlds geopolitically relevant countries. Definitely not third worldist cope.

Tigerace117 said:
Most of the world simply doesn’t care enough about the conflict for such a label to be true, or views the West’s posturing about it as laughably hypocritical.

America is not a trustworthy “ally” in the first place.
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America, as the worlds eminent global empire (although admittedly in decline), has the luxury to not have to care about what "most of the world" thinks. Unlike Russia, we have the economic and strategic muscle to flex.
 
“Geopolitically relevant”? Sorry dude, Croatia, Slovakia and Portugal are nice and all, but their opinion is not particularly relevant in a global stage, especially when compared to places like South Africa, Brazil or India.

The fact the US has a bunch of satrapies that essentially do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, is not convincing to the rest of the globe.

Unfortunately for America, other places also have agency, and that means when America wants them to agree with it and take actions they can just....not do so when they aren’t convinced.

And they haven’t been.
 
No Russian leader will ever do that kind of thing again, as Stalin did in WW 2 when he desperately needed the USA and Lend-Lease against the Nazi Armies and Air Forces swarming all over western Russia inside the Urals.

In a separate operation entirely from Ukraine Putin since 2015 and with Trump has the USA crumbling and dissembling to the point now it is a post Constitutional republic. Russian elites have spent the past hundred years hellbent to demolish the USA democracy and global primacy. This is the Russian obsession, the impending success of which would establish Russia as the cunning and superior power of the world.

Putin's concern about China is Beijing's own obsession to repossess Siberia which they continue to repopulate with Chinese of the CCP acting cheerfully on orders. Putin knows this means military conflict against China. Yet Putin is obsessed with Ukraine and eastern Europe to reclaim next. Putin believes he can avoid a military conflict against the USA. Indeed and despite Trump's nuclear bombast any USA war anywhere is the last thing Trump wants or can conduct.

Xi Jinping knows that with Putin's forces massed against Ukraine and for eastern Europe being next, Putin's only response to China moving into Siberia is nuclear. And Xi knows Putin will go nuclear and do it without hesitation. Xi has moved a number of his exclusively mobile ICBM nuke warheads to the Russian border. This is the most pressing use of nuclear weapons that exists. Nothing else globally comes remotely close to this nuclear exchange on the Asian continent. It's entirely between Russia and China neither of which have ever liked or trusts the other. The two are neighbors and it's neighbors who fight over territory, resources, wealth, cultures/civilizations.
 
Except he didn’t. The Soviets took on the overwhelming majority of the German military and thrashed it. Lend lease tanks and planes only made up a small fraction of the overall Soviet stockpile.
 
Super cool or whatever, but could you do that thing where you pontificate about Antonio Banderas's movies?
 
pedex said:
Indeed. Fodder for propaganda but also operational security.
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i dont think KIA in an aggregate amount damages any Ops security...It's a dirty secret of a dirty war
 


"Truth" Social.....LOL. We're living 1984 in real time. smh


 

Truth Social - owned by Donald Trump
 
Wow....that's something to be proud of.
How about actually ending the war....AS PROMISED.
 
anatta said:
i dont think KIA in an aggregate amount damages any Ops security...It's a dirty secret of a dirty war
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Not in aggregate but they are usually reported on an ongoing battle by battle basis FWIW.
 
Vladimir has likely been made aware of your betrayal of Mother Russia. Please exercise caution; Vladimir has little tolerance for dissent.
 
I am not sure at this point that either Russia or Ukraine can win the war. It still looks like a stalemate. No matter what happens, Russia has already lost in a way it cannot recover from. If Putin was attempting to stop NATO encroachment in that region, the opposite occurred with Finland and Sweden joining NATO. And Europe now seems to be working out that It's not wise to depend on Russia for heating oil or natural gas. Much of Russia's intellectual future is either dying on the battlefield or fleeing the country to avoid the draft. Russia will eventually decide, enough is enough and will withdraw as they did in Afghanistan. The question is how much will be left of Russia and Ukraine.
 
Suddenly @Juin is pro-Ukraine?

MAGAnificent said:
I am not sure at this point that either Russia or Ukraine can win the war. It still looks like a stalemate.
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I think you're right. Now it is a question of which country's government will disintegrate first.
 
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