UK plans to recognise Palestinian state unless Israel ends 'appalling situation' in Gaza

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Britain will recognise the state of Palestine in September unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the "appalling situation" in Gaza and meets other conditions, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer told cabinet.

"He said that the UK will recognise the state of Palestine in September, before UNGA (United Nations General Assembly), unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, reaches a ceasefire, makes clear there will be no annexation in the West Bank, and commits to a long-term peace process that delivers a Two State Solution," a government statement on the meeting said.

"It had been this Government’s longstanding position that recognition of a Palestinian state was an inalienable right of the Palestinian people and that we would recognise a Palestinian state as part of a process to peace and a Two State solution," it added.

"Because of the increasingly intolerable situation in Gaza and the diminishing prospect of a peace process towards a Two State Solution, now was the right time to move this position forward."

Starmer will make an assessment ahead of UNGA on "how far the parties have met these steps before making a final decision."

Pyrite said:

Israel-Gaza live: Global hunger monitor warns of famine, Britain plans to recognise Palestinian state

Israel says 5,000 aid trucks have entered Gaza in two months.

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BREAKING

Britain will recognise the state of Palestine in September unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the "appalling situation" in Gaza and meets other conditions, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer told cabinet.

"He said that the UK will recognise the state of Palestine in September, before UNGA (United Nations General Assembly), unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, reaches a ceasefire, makes clear there will be no annexation in the West Bank, and commits to a long-term peace process that delivers a Two State Solution," a government statement on the meeting said.

"It had been this Government’s longstanding position that recognition of a Palestinian state was an inalienable right of the Palestinian people and that we would recognise a Palestinian state as part of a process to peace and a Two State solution," it added.

"Because of the increasingly intolerable situation in Gaza and the diminishing prospect of a peace process towards a Two State Solution, now was the right time to move this position forward."

Starmer will make an assessment ahead of UNGA on "how far the parties have met these steps before making a final decision."

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It is coming. Finally.

The 'appalling state in Gaza' is that the Hamas monsters still hold innocent civilians hostage in barbaric conditions.

Pyrite said:

Israel-Gaza live: Global hunger monitor warns of famine, Britain plans to recognise Palestinian state

Israel says 5,000 aid trucks have entered Gaza in two months.

www.reuters.com

BREAKING

Britain will recognise the state of Palestine in September unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the "appalling situation" in Gaza and meets other conditions, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer told cabinet.

"He said that the UK will recognise the state of Palestine in September, before UNGA (United Nations General Assembly), unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, reaches a ceasefire, makes clear there will be no annexation in the West Bank, and commits to a long-term peace process that delivers a Two State Solution," a government statement on the meeting said.

"It had been this Government’s longstanding position that recognition of a Palestinian state was an inalienable right of the Palestinian people and that we would recognise a Palestinian state as part of a process to peace and a Two State solution," it added.

"Because of the increasingly intolerable situation in Gaza and the diminishing prospect of a peace process towards a Two State Solution, now was the right time to move this position forward."

Starmer will make an assessment ahead of UNGA on "how far the parties have met these steps before making a final decision."

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UNRWA chief : 'An entirely man-made famine'

The Commissioner General of the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency Philippe Lazzarini posted on X on Tuesday: "More than 100 + people have died due to hunger in the past few weeks alone. The only way to reverse this catastrophe is to flood Gaza with a massive scale up of aid."

Last week, Lazzarini said UNRWA staff, as well as doctors and humanitarian workers, were fainting on duty in Gaza due to hunger and exhaustion.

He also criticised a U.S.-backed aid distribution scheme run by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) that has been supplying aid since late May, when Israel, which controls supplies into Gaza, lifted an 11-week blockade.

Fletch said:

The 'appalling state in Gaza' is that the Hamas monsters still hold innocent civilians hostage in barbaric conditions.

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People are being starved to death. Intentionally. By the Netanyahu Government.

You can try to divert attention from this, but you won't be successful.

Netanyahu is a truly evil man. The entire world should recognize Palestine and strongly back a two state solution and block the annexation by Israel.

Pyrite said:

People are being starved to death. Intentionally. By the Netanyahu Government.

You can try to divert attention from this, but you won't be successful.

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If Hamas surrenders and releases its hostages the suffering ends for everyone, but lets blame the Jews.

Fletch said:

If Hamas surrenders and releases its hostages the suffering ends for everyone, but lets blame the Jews.

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You are not a spokesperson for the Netanyahu Government.

Netanyahu and his Government are the Israelis who are committing war crimes by using food as a weapon of war.

Callen said:

Netanyahu is a truly evil man. The entire world should recognize Palestine and strongly back a two state solution and block the annexation by Israel.

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I dunno. I see stopping Bibi from his monstrous war criming and a two-state solution as two distinct things, even if related.

Recognizing "Palestine" seems to be a purely symbolic gesture. It's not like any of the countries doing it are going to send troops to Gaza, stop the Israelis, and help actually establish a country called Palestine.

Let's say all of Europe recognizes Palestine. Ok. Who are the leaders of Palestine? The maligned, disrespected, corrupt, and largely powerless PLO? The terrorist organization sworn to destruction of Israel and extermination of the Jews (Hamas)? What sense does it make to recognize the existence of country that doesn't have a formal government?



It'd be much better overall if the efforts were aimed at stopping the war and establishing a coalition force to bring stability while the remnants of Hamas are hunted down, similar to the way we finally started winning in Iraq. (That is, instead of clearing areas and moving on, clearing and holding them). That would have to go hand in hand with rebuilding. But even then, it'd be years and years until there was a resilient formal government of "Palestine" that could be treated with like a government.

bomberfox said:

It is coming. Finally.

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Honestly, what specific, real world, and practical effects do you see "recoginzing Palestine" as having?

I don't mean vague moral declarations like "stopping the famine! Stopping the war! Bringing peace! Stopping settlers from stealing land!"

I mean what specifically do you think is going to happen on the ground as a result of France and the UK saying they recognize Palestine and no more?



Right now it's an empty gesture. Maybe it makes people feel like they stood up for the right thing. But it really is meaningless unless until the fighting is stopped, Likud is reigned in, and there is something of a formal government in the land to be defined as "Palestine" that has actual power and authority.

Pyrite said:

You are not a spokesperson for the Netanyahu Government.

Netanyahu and his Government are the Israelis who are committing war crimes by using food as a weapon of war.

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True. But it's a war that Hamas could have put an end to more than 2-1/2 years ago. Why do you keep sidestepping that?

bomberfox said:

It is coming. Finally.

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?? What is?

Mr Person said:

I dunno. I see stopping Bibi from his monstrous war criming and a two-state solution as two distinct things, even if related.

Recognizing "Palestine" seems to be a purely symbolic gesture. It's not like any of the countries doing it are going to send troops to Gaza, stop the Israelis, and help actually establish a country called Palestine.

Let's say all of Europe recognizes Palestine. Ok. Who are the leaders of Palestine? The maligned, disrespected, corrupt, and largely powerless PLO? The terrorist organization sworn to destruction of Israel and extermination of the Jews (Hamas)? What sense does it make to recognize the existence of country that doesn't have a formal government?



It'd be much better overall if the efforts were aimed at stopping the war and establishing a coalition force to bring stability while the remnants of Hamas are hunted down, similar to the way we finally started winning in Iraq. (That is, instead of clearing areas and moving on, clearing and holding them). That would have to go hand in hand with rebuilding. But even then, it'd be years and years until there was a resilient formal government of "Palestine" that could be treated with like a government.



Honestly, what specific, real world, and practical effects do you see "recoginzing Palestine" as having?

I don't mean vague moral declarations like "stopping the famine! Stopping the war! Bringing peace! Stopping settlers from stealing land!"

I mean what specifically do you think is going to happen on the ground as a result of France and the UK saying they recognize Palestine and no more?



Right now it's an empty gesture. Maybe it makes people feel like they stood up for the right thing. But it really is meaningless unless until the fighting is stopped, Likud is reigned in, and there is something of a formal government in the land to be defined as "Palestine" that has actual power and authority.

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That is a critique i will consider. Thanks.

Fletch said:

The 'appalling state in Gaza' is that the Hamas monsters still hold innocent civilians hostage in barbaric conditions.

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Israel doesn’t give a shit about “the hostages”, and never has. Their indiscriminate bombing campaign shows that very clearly.

Fletch said:

If Hamas surrenders and releases its hostages the suffering ends for everyone, but lets blame the Jews.

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Israel’s constant attacks on Palestinian civilians in the West Bank shows that to be utterly false.

Israel is responsible for Israel’s actions, yes.

Pyrite said:

You are not a spokesperson for the Netanyahu Government.

Netanyahu and his Government are the Israelis who are committing war crimes by using food as a weapon of war.

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There is nothing Hamas does that isnt a war crime, yet I dont ever hear you condemn that or call for those responsible for 10/7 to be held accountable. I Hamas laid down its arms, surrenders and released the hostages, the war is over

Fletch said:

The 'appalling state in Gaza' is that the Hamas monsters still hold innocent civilians hostage in barbaric conditions.

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Countries like France and the UK have announced their intent to recognize a Palestinian state. They have in fact like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, The Arab League, Iran, Russia, China, South Africa, Brazil, Ireland have all stated this.

Its not new. None of them have done so because they have no phacking clue who would be the government. Hamas does NOT recognize the Palestinian Authority. The people of Gaza rejected the Palestinian authority. The PA has accused Hamas repeatedly of stealing food from Palestinians. The PA is in fact made up of about 400 or so cells each with its own leader and ideology. It has both a terrorist wing and supposed elected assembly reps in another wing. None of them agree with each other and Abbas is an out and out thief having swindled millions of relief aid to bank accounts in Switzerland, France, Venezuela and Cyprus.

Its easy to say one will recognize a state but there is no state. A state requires rational government capable of running an infrastructure.

Israel does not stop a third Palestinian state (Jordan and Israel already are Palestinian states)-Palestinians do. Palestinians are their own worst enemy unable to disarm their terrorists and sit with Jordan and Israel peacefully.

All the political rhetoric means sweet phack all until terrorists are disarmed.

Interestingly the Italian head of state told NATO and Britain and Italy the same thing as I have stated. Meloni and Germany by the way. The Arab League could have recognized a Palestinian state years ago.

They will not because for Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, a Palestinian stated would become nothing but yet another failed state harboring political and terror cells which are against them/

In fact the geniuses on this board so quick to jump on empty rhetoric give no thought to the reality of the ground in the ME. A Palestinian state would be more of a threat to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon than it would be to Israel. It is those countries that at this time will not allow it and this is why its all meaningless hot air.

By the way to all you experts who have no idea how to find Gaza on the map yet are experts with the current ground situation, air drops of food began 2 days ago but Hamas still refuses to surrender, give up hostages and holds its people hostage.

This is the DUMBEST possible framing. Literally all HAMAS has to do is to refuse to accept any ceasefire offer Israel makes, and the UK will reward them with support for their own state.

Yeesh. We can only conclude that:

A) Starmer felt immense domestic pressure to side with HAMAS, but
B) Didn't want to be seen as siding with HAMAS, so he
C) Gave Israel demands that would require the cooperation of HAMAS so he could blame Israel rhetorically when they failed.

Fletch said:

There is nothing Hamas does that isnt a war crime, yet I dont ever hear you condemn that or call for those responsible for 10/7 to be held accountable. I Hamas laid down its arms, surrenders and released the hostages, the war is over

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This isn't about your opinions. This isn't about your complaints about my pointing out the facts of the war crimes the Government of Israel has been and is committing.

It's about countries' stepping up to the plate in an effort to stop Netanyahu's using food as a weapon against trapped civilians - civilians who are dying of malnutrition, due to the actions of the Israeli Government.

Fletch said:

There is nothing Hamas does that isnt a war crime, yet I dont ever hear you condemn that or call for those responsible for 10/7 to be held accountable. I Hamas laid down its arms, surrenders and released the hostages, the war is over

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That’s been repeatedly shown to be false by Israel’s actions in the West Bank, once again.

cpwill said:

This is the DUMBEST possible framing. Literally all HAMAS has to do is to refuse to accept any ceasefire offer Israel makes, and the UK will reward them with support for their own state.

Yeesh. We can only conclude that:

A) Starmer felt immense domestic pressure to side with HAMAS, but
B) Didn't want to be seen as siding with HAMAS, so he
C) Gave Israel demands that would require the cooperation of HAMAS so he could blame Israel rhetorically when they failed.

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Israeli apologists being furious much of the West is belatedly realizing Israel’s colonization of Palestinian land and mass murder of Palestinian civilians is beyond the pale can’t actually change the facts.

I can believe that there's plenty of humans that get off on seeing innocent people tortured in prison or get off on seeing people they hate starve.

cpwill said:

This is the DUMBEST possible framing. Literally all HAMAS has to do is to refuse to accept any ceasefire offer Israel makes, and the UK will reward them with support for their own state.

Yeesh. We can only conclude that:

A) Starmer felt immense domestic pressure to side with HAMAS, but
B) Didn't want to be seen as siding with HAMAS, so he
C) Gave Israel demands that would require the cooperation of HAMAS so he could blame Israel rhetorically when they failed.

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Talking about "framing" Starmer isn't reacting to " immense domestic pressure to side with Hamas ", he is facing immense domestic pressure to stop being complicit in a genocide, to stop a genocide as per his obligations as a signatory to the Genocide Convention.

Your framing is putrid Israeli hasbara and is akin to those would be wanting to stop the Holocaust being cast as supporters of Bolshevism

CaughtInThe said:

I can believe that there's plenty of humans that get off on seeing innocent people tortured in prison or get off on seeing people they hate starve.

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Quit hitting yourself and look what you made us do is the israel defenders go to really. Some still think Jordan is a palestinian state lolz. Its really the israeli state’s attempt at erasure.

MamboDervish said:

True. But it's a war that Hamas could have put an end to more than 2-1/2 years ago. Why do you keep sidestepping that?

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Look at you siding and liking the posts of people who care vastly more about a handful of illegally held hostages that are at least being fed afawk than the mass starvation of an entire people who are being mass murdered going to get scraps of food, half of which are kids Innocent people being used as target practice.

You out yourself with every sickening and bigoted post you make and have now resorted to liking posts from people whose morals aren't even forged in the gutter but in the sewer..