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UK EU referendum [W:40:728]

EU UK Referendum - leave or stay?

  • The UK should leave if the EU does not agree reform

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    59
Re: UK EU referendum [W:40]

Bah, the Brits only settle near saltwater as everybody knows. That's why British lawns are designed to thrive even there. Gawd knows how you lot pump it up all the way from the sea though.:2razz:

That lawn is plastic. :lamo

Our water doesn't flow up. Our mountains provide the water for the coast, not the other way around.
 
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didn't think you knew that.

It's a hot topic here. More and more water is being drawn down to the coast to irrigate huge agro-industry and tourism (golf courses! Don't get me started!) which makes smaller scale, sustainable agriculture more difficult. Millions have been spent on reservoirs to supply water to the coast and its not being used because the channeling of that water costs more than using existing channels that takes water directly from the high sierra valleys.
 
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I thought the lawn looked a little rumpled! :lol: Is that high-altitude French Lavender? :lamo

I visited friends in Cantoria a few years back and noticed the dry river bed running through the town. I was surprised when we went to Albox market to find the market was held in the riverbed!
 
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Yeah, same here even where the Almijara and Tejeda have nowhere near the supply potential.

One reservoir servicing the nearer surroundings (local, mind you) is just about empty. Partly on account of demand not corresponding to actual rainfall, to a greater part of water already being siphoned off further up.

Yeah, we have to have the revenue from golf courses here too :roll:

Beautiful country up your direction BTW, it just wasn't convenient for me to say so.
 
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If your visit was in summer, that would be normal. Especially if the preceding winter had been relatively dry.
 
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I don't live in the UK. Does this seem accurate to those who do?

Opinion polls put Brexit ahead of RemainPolitico‎ - 1 day ago
Wher I don't live there either, nothing is accurate, what with "weights" shifting as we converse and the "undecideds" still constituting a large number.

I'll start believing polls (or not) when they've become outlived by the referendum.
 
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According to the bookmakers, remain is at around 75%. A Brexit-ahead poll a day or two back caused the £ to fall against the $
 
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I thought the lawn looked a little rumpled! :lol: Is that high-altitude French Lavender? :lamo
It's Spanish lavender, you heathen!

I visited friends in Cantoria a few years back and noticed the dry river bed running through the town. I was surprised when we went to Albox market to find the market was held in the riverbed!

Albox is in the desert. Ugly little place IMHO, but unsurprising that the river doesn't run very often. It's not quite as arid here, but water's a subject that can get you into more fights in this area than supporting Barcelona can. A that's saying something.
 
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Oh okay, you must be somewhere near Nerja/Frigiliana. I didn't know that. Next time I'm passing we should grab a beer.
 
Re: UK EU referendum [W:40]

I don't live in the UK. Does this seem accurate to those who do?

Opinion polls put Brexit ahead of RemainPolitico‎ - 1 day ago

I think recent polls have shown small leads in both directions. I'd say it's too close to call. Maybe as the vote date approaches one or other side may pull out a significant lead, but neither has one at present.
 
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Oh okay, you must be somewhere near Nerja/Frigiliana. I didn't know that. Next time I'm passing we should grab a beer.
Little bit more East and sufficiently inland (and up) to be away from the summer humdrum of the coast but still be able to enjoy sea view.

Yeah, gimme me a shout if you're headed this way.
 
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lets get real if the Scottish ref had been open to all of the UK they would have been long gone and bankrupt
 
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Little bit more East and sufficiently inland (and up) to be away from the summer humdrum of the coast but still be able to enjoy sea view.

Yeah, gimme me a shout if you're headed this way.

Hmm you also here on the Costa.....So we got Granada area to Mijas area...
 
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The only real threats I see are the viciousness Brussels thinks a necessary reaction to Brexit and the loss of their insider place at the negotiating tables. But those are very real dangers.
 
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Hmm you also here on the Costa.....So we got Granada area to Mijas area...
Yeah, no escape for anyone, we got the buggers covered. :mrgreen:
 
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The only real threats I see are the viciousness Brussels thinks a necessary reaction to Brexit and the loss of their insider place at the negotiating tables. But those are very real dangers.

I now don't see the EU granting the UK favourable dealings if we leave, we are still going to have to agree free movement of people or labour if we leave and want market access to the single market. I also as you suggest think there will be a tendency among some to make any more thought of referendums unpalatable so yes - I think there may be among some, a move towards being harder in dealings.

Surprised this story hasn't had any traction recently.

 
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Yes, that's a very interesting story. Thing is, it's difficult for either side of the referendum debate to use that story for campaigning purposes. The EU's actions on this are both interference in Poland's sovereignty and yet supportive of its democracy at the same time.
 
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I was actually surprised at the EU timing. This is especially true, as the threat is empty as in this case actions require unanimity and Hungary has already said that it will use a veto.
 
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I was actually surprised at the EU timing. This is especially true, as the threat is empty as in this case actions require unanimity and Hungary has already said that it will use a veto.

Yes the one fascist state in the EU is supporting the other nation going the same way.. who would have thought. They both should be expelled from the EU..
 
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Yes the one fascist state in the EU is supporting the other nation going the same way.. who would have thought. They both should be expelled from the EU..

With which majority can which body of the EU decide to do that?
 
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With which majority can which body of the EU decide to do that?

I started looking up on this and I found this interesting document by the ECB.

There's a lovely little quote which goes back to discussions about sovereignty and ever closer union earlier in the thread.


From an EU body itself. No wonder I cannot decide whether we should stay in or leave!
 
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Actually, this is the reason I believe that the UK should stay in and use its position to stop the destructive rush towards ever closer union. The UK should remain and role back the unhealthy adage of the last two decades.
 
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Actually, this is the reason I believe that the UK should stay in and use its position to stop the destructive rush towards ever closer union. The UK should remain and role back the unhealthy adage of the last two decades.

Well.. I hoped when Cameron went in to meetings about renegotiation, we would use our global status as part of the bargaining tool and get a real deal. It is important that we got an escape from some of the elements but how seriously do other nations wish to follow suit? Our so-called allies in this deserted Cameron when time came.

People wish for change but who has the heart to push this through and make it happen? Maybe the only way it will happen is for the UK to leave.?
 
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