If sanctions could actually encourage the Iranian people to rise up, they would've done so by now. But it hasn't happened, in spite of 40 years of sanctions on Iran.
So you're argument is that if something doesn't work, keep doing it?
If sanctions could actually encourage the Iranian people to rise up, they would've done so by now. But it hasn't happened, in spite of 40 years of sanctions on Iran.
So you're argument is that if something doesn't work, keep doing it?
So let me get this straight, in your logical, non-emotional, rational thought process, if the economic life/well-being of a people (Iranian or any-other) suddenly IMPROVES (via lifting of sanctions or by other means) those people will be MORE likely to over-throw their government?!?, rather than just roll with the status quo?!? LOL!!!
Please give me your examples from history of when that happened.
Maybe Iranians are smart. Maybe they've looked around the region and seen that the Arab Spring is having ****ty results and prefer the status quo. :shrug:
One small difference, like for example, Obama's backed terrorist group the Muslim Brotherhood trying to over-throw a moderate government in Egypt? If all the BS is true about the majority of the population of Iran being moderate, it is just the opposite.
A link would be nice right about now...
I read quite a bit, but never what you claim... so the CIA was in place and ready to crank up it's coup support in a couple of months? We had no problem with Iran until Mossadegh 'seized' power?
Many dictators seize power- why did we care about Iran? Why did we install a Shah instead of new DEMOCRATIC elections? Why did we never push the Shah for true elections? Why did we help his Secret Police suppress opposition?
The BEST you can claim is we substituted one dictator for another- not very noble of us at all...
But do link the referendum vote, a time table of how it came about would be nice...eace
Check out the wiki sections on the coup, the Shah and Mossadeq, it's all in there. We wanted Mossadeq out because we thought he was sympathetic to the communists and would align Iran with the Soviets. We didn't push the Shah out because under the Iranian Constitution he was the legitimate head of state and we did push for reforms they are known as the White Revolution which inevitably led to his overthrow by the Mullahs.m
Here is a good detailed article discussing the events that led up to the removal of Mossadeq:
After the protests, the Majlis became the main seat of anti-Mosaddeq agitation. Since Mosaddeq's ascension to the premiership, his seemingly arbitrary decision-making, his inability to end the oil crisis, and the narrowing of his circle to a few trusted aides had gradually alienated many parliamentarians. In response, the prime minister decided to eliminate the threat by simply dissolving the Majlis. Doing so required executing a ploy of dubious legality, however: on July 14, all the National Front deputies loyal to Mosaddeq resigned their posts at once, depriving the chamber of the necessary quorum to function. Mosaddeq then called for a national referendum to decide the fate of the paralyzed legislature. But this was hardly a good-faith, democratic gesture; the plebiscite was marred by boycotts, voting irregularities, and mob violence, and the results surprised no one: Mosaddeq's proposal to dissolve parliament was approved by 99 percent of the voters. Mosaddeq won his rigged election, but the move cost him what remained of his tattered legitimacy.
What Really Happened in Iran - Council on Foreign Relations
Simpleχity;1065415425 said:White House Delays Imposing New Sanctions on Iran for Missile Program
Obama not enforcing another red-line? Gee, whodathunkit?
Iran threatens to develop 5000-km range missiles
No doubt with assistance from Iran's best-bud Russia.
Greetings, Objective Voice. :2wave:
I was under the impression that it was their money that was put under sanction by the international community, and they made it a condition that it would be released the minute the deal was signed, if I am remembering correctly. It may have been released by now, but I haven't heard so I don't know. Their neighbors don't trust them, and they know how they operate better than we do, so why we should trust anything they say is anybody's guess.
So let me get this straight, in your logical, non-emotional, rational thought process,
if the economic life/well-being of a people (Iranian or any-other) suddenly IMPROVES (via lifting of sanctions or by other means) those people will be MORE likely to over-throw their government?!?, rather than just roll with the status quo?!? LOL!!!
Simpleχity;1065415425 said:White House Delays Imposing New Sanctions on Iran for Missile Program
Obama not enforcing another red-line? Gee, whodathunkit?
Iran threatens to develop 5000-km range missiles
No doubt with assistance from Iran's best-bud Russia.
:agree: :thumbs: Happy New Year to you and yours!
I did check it out, once again the TIMELINE throws your claims into question. FIRST the US helps depose one Shah for a youngster (You'd call him a puppet if the Soviets had done so). Next the US pushes to have Mossadeqh removed as the ELECTED Prime Minister. Mossadeqh resigns and the Shah asks him to RESUME being the PM as POPULAR support for Mossadeqh is massive. More outside agitation by Western Powers, more civil unrest stirred up and as a final act to try and quell the CIA backed operations Mossadeqh calls for a referendum... (Ya kinda leave all that out now don't ya)
His inability to end the oil crisis is more CIA BS. The British and American interests FROZE Iranian assets to try and strong arm Iran back into a very lopsided oil agreement. His inability is due to the West's refusal to negotiate with Iran like they did with the Saudis... :doh
But do spin on...eace
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