Unless you attack police officers with weapons, resist arrest, or the like stop being scared, your fear is irrational paranoia
All police killings are avoidable, by the suspect.
No indeed. In fact of the 385 listed, at least 16 of them actually involve people that may not have been presenting as armed and violent offenders.That doesn't mean that all police killings are justified.
But what you DID say is "I suppose we shouldn't even mention how a proven corrupt police department could be indirectly involved in civilian-on-civilian shootings." I believe that is the statement he was seeking clarification on.No, I'm not saying that because, unlike you, I'm not foolish enough to make a definitive statement about cases I haven't read through.
So is this some new debate strategy to missuses words and defend it with non sequitur?
Did I make a claim?
... Is this a new debate strategy? Trolling a strawman? You have no substantial point you've literally said nothing of substance.
In fact, you are responding to my insight by using non sequiturs by saying "you don't know what's the detention means"
why don't you explain where my evaluation of statements lack, at least in your bubble of misconception, and reply with something of substance.
Do you know the difference between killing an armed enemy and killing an unarmed fellow citizen?
Doesn't mean anything....????
Do the police ever evaluate whether any of those killings are avoidable? or preventable? And what can we do to change the situation? Because the situation is really horrible!
Fight me to the point my life or my ability to go home at the end of the shift is in jeopardy. I will end you DRT.Resisting arrest is immediate grounds for execution? Interesting concept.
So add "straw man" and possibly "tolling" to the list of words you aren't using properly.
I am simply challenging your piss poor vocabulary and how it undermines the points you appear to be trying to make. "Neoconservative" has nothing to do with support of domestic policing. "Authoritarian" has nothing to do with establishing a state currency. A "straw man" has nothing to do with challenging that someone's argument is a non sequitur. I mean seriously, man, do you think a jump from "Neocon" to "Authoritarian" to National currency without even a hint of even trying to connect your disparate dots is something other than bizarre?
Can I assume you meant "definition" and that you weren't actually directly quoting me?
You haven't made an argument that needs addressing yet, just a series of bizarre claims with no rational argument attached to them.
Out of curiosity, what would you consider substantive in your argument?
No, that's not how it works, at least for me. If someone makes a definitive claim without proof, I'm going to question them and my decision to question them comes with zero responsibility to do anything. Go try that **** with someone else. Bye.When you jump into the middle of a conversation between two people you assume the responsibility to know the claims of both sides.
Yes, comparing soldier deaths in a combat zone to citizens deaths due to police action to enemy deaths has no real meaning. Its a appeal to moral relativity.
Fight me to the point my life or my ability to go home at the end of the shift is in jeopardy. I will end you DRT.
Its not a cops job to tote an asswhipping just because you feel the need to resist.
Care to provide any evidence of all that crap you just said?
SPECIFICALLY, something to the effect that police departments are making law...
I would call that human nature if that's the case.I didn't say it was. And I'm not saying that you, or any cop for that matter, shouldn't kill someone who really threatens your life. Problem is it seems lots of cops are stretching the idea of "threatens their life" means. And you and I both know that lots of cops also stretch the meaning of "resisting arrest"
Why have so many Police Depts been investigated by DOJ and found to be severely lacking with following the laws on the books? Officers flagrantly ignoring the law, until it instills a culture within the Dept itself.
How many investigations by DOJ does it take before Police Depts and their leadership to get the message, you follow the law, you enforce the law, you do not make Law.
The majority of the DOJ investigations are the result of political pressure in order to attempt to calm down the citizenry enough to stop them from rioting. If there were really serious issues found then those officers would be fired. What you hear about in the news is simply a measure to make people calm down. The DOJ would shut down a station if such rampant abuses were actually true.
The DOJ has found a number of Depts with massive violations.
It is not all politics.
You cannot shut down a Police Dept. unless it is a 2 officer town.
Oh you mean like that one officer in S.C. who shot at a man 8 times in the back and got cleared by their internal review. Then that unfortunate youtube video popped up...If there were really serious issues found then those officers would be fired.
Oh you mean like that one officer in S.C. who shot at a man 8 times in the back and got cleared by their internal review. Then that unfortunate youtube video popped up...
It's one of a multitude of "internal investigations" that clear cops and then when some video gets shown in public, often the same videos that the internal affairs had access to, charges to the citizens get dropped and charges to the cops are made.?
I'm sorry, where is the statistic that police have killed 60 million people?
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