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80 people died, I wouldn't consider that a good job.
It is not their job to protect everyone in the world. It is only their job to protect Americans. Doesn't your source know that?
Leon Panetta claimed that support wasn't sent, because it was, "dangerous". Now, the claim is that supporting forces were too far away.
What's next weeks lie going to be?
My point is that 80 people working in the Embassy died. It doesn't matter if they were not Americans. They should be treated with the same respect, they are humans. It is our responsibility to look after everyone working in each Embassy. If we are going to throw that responsibility out of the window, then we need to pull our a**es out of every country we are in. I think we should do that anyway since the world didn't ask us to police the world. We can't even run our country right, so we shouldn't meddle in foreign affairs either.
My point is that 80 people working in the Embassy died. It doesn't matter if they were not Americans. They should be treated with the same respect, they are humans. It is our responsibility to look after everyone working in each Embassy. If we are going to throw that responsibility out of the window, then we need to pull our a**es out of every country we are in. I think we should do that anyway since the world didn't ask us to police the world. We can't even run our country right, so we shouldn't meddle in foreign affairs either.
The head of security was a Yemeni.. and its very likely he was killed by al Houthis, not AQ.
Intelligence official offers new timeline for Benghazi attack – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs
Yeah but he worked for us and in our Embassy! 20 years!
Libyan Leaks: More Secret Documents Reveal Obama’s failure in Libya
Barack Obama’s claim to election fame – that Al-Qaeda has been destroyed – needs a reality check, according to a group of anti-Al Qaeda Libyans in exile. “We beg to differ,” they exclaimed. “Obama gift-wrapped Libya, handed it over to Al-Qaeda, and we can prove it.”
The group stated they have come into possession of some highly classified documents that in their view, “will bring the Obama Administration down.” They were not bluffing; they provided the first installments of official classified documents which we provided in some of our previous reporting. “The rest,” they say, “will be provided when Mitt Romney is in office. His election is our only hope for humanity,” they said.
These documents include evidence of highly sophisticated weaponry provided to jihadists which leads them to doubt that any solutions will take place under what they called “The Obama regime”.
We have come into the possession of an array of records obtained from top-level sources inside the Libyan government. They include passports of Al-Qaeda operatives and identifications of terrorists from many nations—Chad, Egypt and Pakistan to name a few—which are now all camped in Libya as they enter by crossing borders guarded and managed officially by what they called “government appointed Al-Qaeda leaders.”
Libyan Leaks: More Secret Documents Reveal Obama’s failure in Libya | Walid Shoebat
According to your own article, only 5 embassy employees died in the incidents listed. One listed 6 injured, but does not clarify if they were employees or visitors and one local guard dying. Where do you get 80 people working in the Embassy died?
Respect is earned, not given. Common courtesy should exist, common respect is an unsupportable myth. In some of the cases, some of the dead were the attackers or part of them, for them I have absolutely no respect. If they want respect, let them put on a uniform, form actual fighting units and meet us honorably on a field of battle instead of acting like murderous criminals.
Having an embassy someplace is not us attempting to "meddle in foreign affairs". We have embassies in every country that we politically recognize, and they have embassies and consulates here. Even ones we don't recognize have UN embassies in New York. None of which are established or maintained for military purposes.
Yeah but he worked for us and in our Embassy! 20 years!
Libyan Leaks: More Secret Documents Reveal Obama’s failure in Libya
Barack Obama’s claim to election fame – that Al-Qaeda has been destroyed – needs a reality check, according to a group of anti-Al Qaeda Libyans in exile. “We beg to differ,” they exclaimed. “Obama gift-wrapped Libya, handed it over to Al-Qaeda, and we can prove it.”
The group stated they have come into possession of some highly classified documents that in their view, “will bring the Obama Administration down.” They were not bluffing; they provided the first installments of official classified documents which we provided in some of our previous reporting. “The rest,” they say, “will be provided when Mitt Romney is in office. His election is our only hope for humanity,” they said.
These documents include evidence of highly sophisticated weaponry provided to jihadists which leads them to doubt that any solutions will take place under what they called “The Obama regime”.
We have come into the possession of an array of records obtained from top-level sources inside the Libyan government. They include passports of Al-Qaeda operatives and identifications of terrorists from many nations—Chad, Egypt and Pakistan to name a few—which are now all camped in Libya as they enter by crossing borders guarded and managed officially by what they called “government appointed Al-Qaeda leaders.”
Libyan Leaks: More Secret Documents Reveal Obama’s failure in Libya | Walid Shoebat
I just did a quick count of people who died during Embassy attacks. I'm sorry if I didn't take the time to get as specific as possible. I was trying to make a point.
As far as meddling in foreign affairs, having a military bases in other countries is meddling in my book. If we are going to be allowed to be stationed throughout the world, we should allow other countries to establish military bases here in the US. What's fair is fair. Exactly who is policing us while we are policing the world? Just because we have the UN headquartered here doesn't mean we are being policed effectively.
I think the US needs to focus on the US. We need to stop worrying about what is going on in the rest of the world and fix our country. We have our hands involved in too many places and we don't have a free hand to wipe our a**es. We've got a crust growing and the world can smell it. We need to take a break from what we are doing, clean ourselves up, then maybe we can go back to doing what we are doing with the world.
Benghazi attack : The Two-Way : NPR
According to this, they tried sending in troops, but there were no troops close enough to get there in time.
also:
Is not using the super secret CIA time machine an impeachable offense?
(Normally, I don't like using NPR as a source here because it will be attacked. However, since the Daily Caller and WND are being used by the right these days....)
One thing this proves, obama knew from the very beginning this was a terror attack so if nothing else he is a liar.
I just did a quick count of people who died during Embassy attacks. I'm sorry if I didn't take the time to get as specific as possible. I was trying to make a point.
As far as meddling in foreign affairs, having a military bases in other countries is meddling in my book. If we are going to be allowed to be stationed throughout the world, we should allow other countries to establish military bases here in the US. What's fair is fair. Exactly who is policing us while we are policing the world? Just because we have the UN headquartered here doesn't mean we are being policed effectively.
I think the US needs to focus on the US. We need to stop worrying about what is going on in the rest of the world and fix our country. We have our hands involved in too many places and we don't have a free hand to wipe our a**es. We've got a crust growing and the world can smell it. We need to take a break from what we are doing, clean ourselves up, then maybe we can go back to doing what we are doing with the world.
The US is failing as bad domestically as much as it is failing in its foreign policies. It's decline is more rapid than Rome's or Great Britain's and will accelerate under the leaderhip of Barrack Obama and his Czars.
I just did a quick count of people who died during Embassy attacks. I'm sorry if I didn't take the time to get as specific as possible. I was trying to make a point.
As far as meddling in foreign affairs, having a military bases in other countries is meddling in my book. If we are going to be allowed to be stationed throughout the world, we should allow other countries to establish military bases here in the US. What's fair is fair. Exactly who is policing us while we are policing the world? Just because we have the UN headquartered here doesn't mean we are being policed effectively.
I think the US needs to focus on the US. We need to stop worrying about what is going on in the rest of the world and fix our country. We have our hands involved in too many places and we don't have a free hand to wipe our a**es. We've got a crust growing and the world can smell it. We need to take a break from what we are doing, clean ourselves up, then maybe we can go back to doing what we are doing with the world.
What would be the point of another country putting a base in the U.S.?
For the same reason why we have bases in other countries. For example, what is wrong with allowing England set up a base in Alaska to help us keep the Russians off our soil? If we are truly allies with another country, then there should be no issue with them setting up a base on our soil. If we are based in other countries to help train their military and help them if another country attacks, then they should be over here helping us do the same. If this idea makes you uncomfortable, then you need to put yourself in the shoes of the citizens where we are based at.
It's too late to do much damage now and the MSM wouldn't cover it anyway.
As to taking care of ourselves, we were in great shape at onetime, and imo, we screwed it up because of liberalism/socialism. Also, what makes you deserving of protection and rights that you have here over a person who was born elsewhere? Are we not all people? Do not all peoples deserve the same rights, freedoms and opportunities that exist in the US? Because a person was born in Iraq under Sodamed Insane, they deserved to be arrested tortured and killed but you don't deserve it because you were fortunate enough to born in the US instead? Rather selfish of you to think that only Americans deserve what we have and to protect it, we should just ignore and screw over the rest of the world for it.
None of that makes any sense. We don't need other countries to train our country, or protect us from attack.
And likewise, other countries don't need us to help them do that either. We've held everyone's hands long enough. Time to take off the training wheels and let them ride their own bike. They may fall a few times, but they will be ok.
There will be plenty after the Election should Obama win. Republicans wont let it go now and nor will others. Also We know Stevens met with the Turks Ambassador on the Street an Hour before. Also Don't forget Gaffney with the Washington Times that is coming at the issue thru the weapons tangent.
So despite the deflections by those on the left. It will be ongoing unless Obama loses. Then it might be forgotten.
And likewise, other countries don't need us to help them do that either. We've held everyone's hands long enough. Time to take off the training wheels and let them ride their own bike. They may fall a few times, but they will be ok.
Can you describe what would involve 'falling a few times" and what the international consequences might be?
There will be plenty after the Election should Obama win. Republicans wont let it go now and nor will others. Also We know Stevens met with the Turks Ambassador on the Street an Hour before. Also Don't forget Gaffney with the Washington Times that is coming at the issue thru the weapons tangent.
So despite the deflections by those on the left. It will be ongoing unless Obama loses. Then it might be forgotten.
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