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U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

I wouldn't.

And not only that, we sure as wouldn't hear all the crying about it from the folks who are trippin' over this BS.

And you still don't get it. I think you're being intentionally evasive.

I don't give a damn what the inscription says or which bible it's from. It's a religious inscription being paid for with taxpayer funds.

The job of our military is to defend this great nation. The military accepts volunteers of all religious denominations. No religion should be promoted above another. Especially when we're all footing the bill for it.
 

I think I trust our military in their choice of a good contractor. Whether it is Trijicon or not, they want our soldiers to have an edge and wouldn't put substandard equipment in their hands.
 
The rifle sights will work just fine without the inscription. It will save American lives without the inscription. It will kill bad guys without the inscription.
if you are so offended, I suggest you take a piece of steel wool and remove the inscriptions.
 

I don't want the contractor to lose the contract either. But the religious inscription is not needed. They're endorsing a specific religion. And they're doing it on our dime.
 

No, you don't get it. I don't see a religious inscription. I see a piece of warfighting gear that, if it works as it's supposed to, will aid our soldiers in killing the enemy and keeping more American troops alive. That's all I see here.
 
I don't want the contractor to lose the contract either. But the religious inscription is not needed. They're endorsing a specific religion. And they're doing it on our dime.

Disagree, they got the contract on a bid & delivered it to spec...
Case closed......
 
I think I trust our military in their choice of a good contractor. Whether it is Trijicon or not, they want our soldiers to have an edge and wouldn't put substandard equipment in their hands.

Obviously, you've never served in the military. That's not a shot at you, but anyone who has served in the military is well aware that the military has a nack for buying ****ty equipment.
 
Obviously, you've never served in the military. That's not a shot at you, but anyone who has served in the military is well aware that the military has a nack for buying ****ty equipment.

Well, that may very well be. I assumed that they had higher standards for our soldiers, but I could be wrong. I agree, though, that having a tiny code in the serial number that references the bible isn't that big of a deal. I do find it rather humorous, though.
 
It's really not a question of adding costs, or even of religious symbols paid for by tax money. It is the symolism that the war is a modern day crusade.

Is it a modern day crusade? Are we, in fact, at war with Islam?

Can you imagine an all out war between Christians and Muslims, ala middle ages?:shock:

Is Christianity a religion of war?

 
It's really not a question of adding costs, or even of religious symbols paid for by tax money. It is the symolism that the war is a modern day crusade.
Which is false.
 

They do have high standards for how a piece of equipment is supposed to perform. However, the testing and procurement process isn't always perfect and equipment that doesn't perform as it should gets placed into the system.

A prime example is the Bradley. When the earlier generations were designed they were fitted with a potable water tank inside the troop compartment. It was discovered that there was no way to properly clean the tank, because of it's configuration. They figured that when a whole battalion of soldiers in Germany came down with a case of amoebic disentary. The punchline, was that we couldn't throw them away. They had to remain with the vehicle. I rode around for years looking at that stupid, useless, space wasting water tank, shaking my head at the stupidity of it all.

The military has good intentions, but you know that old saying about good intentions.
 


If it doesn't establish a national religion or give any church municipal power, it is not unconstitutional. However, there is still the question of whether or not these sights violate any military rule.

I hope the manufacturer realizes the demand for religious sayings on rifle sights and the market they're not fully immersed in, and begins producing sights with passages from other religions.
 
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This thread looks familiar.
 
 
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Why was that?
 
Oh well, **** happens. Deal with it :lol: :2wave:
 
Why was that?

No clue, man. It's why I shook my head at the stupidity of not throwing the useless piece-a-crap in the dumpster at the motor pool.
 
Why didn't they put the passage reference in a prominent location so the soldier would know it was there?

Better yet, stamp the entire passage itself on the side of the sight so it could be read?
 
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Ooh, ooh, here's another great example of good intentions paving the road to hell.

The swim barrier on the Bradley that was supposed to make it amphibious. See the soldiers riding in top the hull? yeah, they're up there because the vehicle was liable to sink. Also, the main gun couldn't be fired with the swim barrier erected. It was basically a joke.

 

I'm speechless...
 
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