We gave over 15 billion dollars in defense funding and weaponry to Israel under Obama...
To Lady Haley, Hear! Hear!
Yep. The UN is a worthless organization anyway and we shouldn't be paying as much as we are for it. They don't do anything useful for the world except sit in their ivory towers announcing anti-semetic platitudes: all while congratulating each other on the American taxpayer dime.
the US as an honest/unbiased mediator in I/P negotiations...
I also know that now the US will never again be regarded as an unbiased I/P mediator.
I have no dog in the dispute between Israel and Palestine.
But I do know that back in 1947, the Jewish Agency of Palestine (representing Jews and Zionists) signed a document (Partition Plan for Palestine / UN Resolution 181) which declared that Jerusalem shall be an international city administered by the UN.
I know that since then, the international community (and the US) adhered to this Resolution and virtually all states located their respective Israel embassy in Tel Aviv (including the US).
I know that in 1995, the 104th Congress passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act, but every US president since has signed a waiver every 6 months keeping the US embassy in Tel Aviv and maintaining the US as an honest/unbiased mediator in I/P negotiations.
I also know that in this spirit, there are 86+ foreign embassies in Tel Aviv and 0 in Jerusalem. I also know that now the US will never again be regarded as an unbiased I/P mediator.
Mahmoud Abbas has already petitioned Russia and/or China to assume the official I/P negotiator role that the US has abrogated. Kushner may as well throw his I/P portfolio in the ****can.
It doesn't matter an ounce of spit what the majority of the UN Assembly thinks about the U.S.A. recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel. And it doesn't matter an ounce of spit that they object to us moving our embassy to Jerusalem. We are a sovereign nation and will do what we see as just and fitting.
I was so darn proud of Ambassador Haley's remarks today. Darn proud.
The vote was rather telling from those who voted for, against and abstention. I went to a webpage that listed by country the amount of aid militarily, economically, and humanitarian to all those who voted for and the numbers were astronomical that the U.S. doles out. I for one am darn tired of the UN crapping on the U.S. time and time again while wanting us to be the top donor to them so they can continue this charade. Instead of being so generous with people who do not respect our sovereignty but just like the money we dole out pox on their houses. It is time for some serious cuts. In doing so would pay for needed infrastructure, building a wall and securing the borders, in just a couple of years. Do it!
Yes it is. It is the city the nation of Israel has declaredd to be it's capital. It is also recognized as such by the US. Do you think sovereign nations do not have the right to establish a capital city for their country?
But I do know that back in 1947, the Jewish Agency of Palestine (representing Jews and Zionists) signed a document (Partition Plan for Palestine / UN Resolution 181) which declared that Jerusalem shall be an international city administered by the UN.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_PalestineThe United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a proposal by the United Nations...
The resolution recommended the creation of independent Arab and Jewish States and a Special International Regime for the city of Jerusalem...
The Plan was accepted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, despite its perceived limitations.[5][6] Arab leaders and governments rejected it[7] and indicated an unwillingness to accept any form of territorial division,[8] arguing that it violated the principles of national self-determination in the UN Charter which granted people the right to decide their own destiny.[6][9]
Immediately after adoption of the Resolution by the General Assembly, a civil war broke out[10] and the plan was not implemented.[11]
Unbiased? The US has always been a staunch ally of Israel. How many countries consider Hamas a terrorist organization? Where did you get the idea that the US ever was not biased towards a democratic ally and against an official terrorist regime?
U.N. General Assembly repudiates Trump on Jerusalem decision despite his threat of U.S. aid cutoff
128-9. The Trump/Haley extortion threat bullied few. They again look like the fools they actually are.
How is it that Trump threatening to cut off aid money over a vote is NOT a crime, but Rosie O'Donnell offering money to senators for their vote IS a crime?
One is blackmail. The other bribery.
(for the record, I think rosie o'donnell is guilty of attempted bribery)
Not my idea personally.
Mahmoud Abbas (Fatah) accepted the US as a neutral host for I/P negotiations. Some of those I/P negotiations even transpired on US soil (Annapolis Conference).
That Palestinian trust is now dust in the wind. Other entities such as Russia, China, and the EU will now fill this particular US leadership vacuum.
How is it that Trump threatening to cut off aid money over a vote is NOT a crime, but Rosie O'Donnell offering money to senators for their vote IS a crime?
One is blackmail. The other bribery.
(for the record, I think rosie o'donnell is guilty of attempted bribery)
Yes, antisemitism is alive and well in the international community.
Because a negotiated settlement on the future of Jerusalem is a fundamental part of any peace deal, and has been the UN's and America's position for half a century.
This severely harms what slim chance of peace there was.
That was specific to those negotiations and merely as a host. Fatah was not declaring the US neutral in general. We could again, at any time, provide a secure location for talks.
That's fine. We should be with Israel. When Palestine has a legitimate democratic government, for all of its territory, and no longer sponsors hate education in elementary schools, no longer supports violent and hateful rhetoric in any province and joins the West in recognizing human rights, I'll worry about pleasing that government.
You think there is any hope to achieve peace? I've been to many countries in the Middle East and this area has been in my job field for 16 years. It's not going to happen anytime in our lifetimes.
My position is that Israel should be a democratic state where they are equal, not an ethnocentric state. A lot of Trump supporters think Israel should be an ethnocentric Jewish state.
I don't think this is an issue of antisemitism.
If we were 20 maybe. 2-3 generations should accomplish it, if only for that small region. Iraq and Afghanistan might also adopt Western values in that time.
If we were 20 maybe. 2-3 generations should accomplish it, if only for that small region. Iraq and Afghanistan might also adopt Western values in that time.
My husband travels and works in the Middle East. He does investments, start ups, and real estate. We talk about moving there often. The interesting thing about the region is that having money can really afford you a very high quality of life. Many aspects of city life is very modern and state of the art. We could live there and have more luxury, less medical bills, free college, more money and assets which we plan to use for more investing and traveling, but not as many rights. It's an interesting trade off to think about.
Yep. The UN is a worthless organization anyway and we shouldn't be paying as much as we are for it. They don't do anything useful for the world except sit in their ivory towers announcing anti-semetic platitudes: all while congratulating each other on the American taxpayer dime.
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