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Her "war" is on JIHADISTS who want to kill us and everyone else who isn't Muslim or a "good enough" Muslim. She's not the enemy here.
Yes, they had mothers and fathers at one time who may have loved them but now they are being used as examples of what can happen when you try to mass murder innocent people.Rather than putting the boot into Islam or Muhammed or anything else negative, how about looking at the situation from a compassionate point of view? Until these extremists got some guns and decided to try to kill people, they were worth something to somebody.
Yes, Muslims are always fearful of that "backlash" which never comes. Instead we continue to have Muslim backlashes for some 'provocation' or another. And naturally, as you are seeing in the UK, more Muslims means more problems. That's just the way it is.Now I see that Muslims in Texas are fearful of a backlash and many Texan politicians are making gestures to show their disapproval of Islam. There are 200,000 Muslims in Texas alone so potential for many more problems in the future.
She has numerous speeches on youtube. Enrich yourself, nobody else is going to do it for you.
She is nothing more than a self-serving extremist radical.
Her purpose was likely to demonstrate, once again, how backward and simple-minded many Muslims are, and in a number of areas.I agree completely. I am in no way condoning the silencing of people due to intimidation. I think that if you want to draw Allah with a bomb wrapped head gear go for it. If Muslims attack they should be stopped or killed. But if you draw that picture for the sole purpose of pissing off Muslims you are contributing to the problem. There really is no need to draw those pictures...
When people are that predictably 'incite-able' you must know they are a problem.I blame the attacker for the violence. The cartoon lady is not a victim... she is an inciter. I blame her for inciting.My side is realism. You should join it.
She is nothing more than a self-serving extremist radical.
We pick fights all the time with cartoons, debates, insults, and so on, but we don't generally respond with violence. If that was the case this board would only have two or three members.Couch it anyway you like, but it sure sounds to me like picking a fight - then claiming you've been attacked once you've succeeded.
Yeah, you won't see many 'Je suis Pamela Geller' buttons among the liberal set.What really puzzles me is how so called enlightened liberals/progressives worldwide, somehow think it morally ok for those at Charlie Hebdo to draw cartoons and be martyrs for the cause, but it's not ok for Pam Geller. :blink:
The hate and ignorance obviously came from the Muslims, and they have support around the world from other Islamists. It's best not to get confused over who is doing the 'hating' here, and hating enough to murder innocent people.To the bolded. Not really, it just takes hate, and ignorance.
There are pro-Muslim activists as well, and they tend to be chopping off the heads of innocent people, or kidnapping and raping young girls.People need to stop comparing Geller to Charlie Hebdo. Charlie Hebdo had a long history of satire aimed at different religious and political figures. Geller is a far-right anti-Muslim activist.
To suggest they equate is beyond ridiculous.
The hate and ignorance obviously came from the Muslims, and they have support around the world from other Islamists. It's best not to get confused over who is doing the 'hating' here, and hating enough to murder innocent people.
We have seen their hatreds in Africa, the Middle East and all over the world. It is not American people who are the 'haters'..
Then, in cases like that, you separate what's worthwhile in what she says and what isn't. I wouldn't expect perfection from Pamela Geller or anyone else but there can still be truths in what she says. We just have to discern.The only way the Campbell's thing was "linked" to Hamas is that the certifying board has very loose ties to one of its branches.
But it's stuff like this that makes her self-proclaimed crusade against radical Islam look like a campaign to denigrate, mock or defame anyone or anything even remotely associated with Islam.
"Lip service"?? If more people like Geller spoke out against these atrocities perhaps it would have some effect on this 'religion'.She pays lip service to limiting her hate to extremists every so often; then she does stuff like I cited earlier which belies that notion.
Her 'war on Islam' is based on words. The war by Muslims is based on murder.That's nice, and what about the rest of her war on Islam?
Then, in cases like that, you separate what's worthwhile in what she says and what isn't. I wouldn't expect perfection from Pamela Geller or anyone else but there can still be truths in what she says. We just have to discern.
Hatred of radical Islam? Agreed.
Ignorance? Of what?
"Lip service"?? If more people like Geller spoke out against these atrocities perhaps it would have some effect on this 'religion'.
But we don't expect any of that from the 'liberals'.
Knuckle dragging morons think that they have arrived at the height of their free speech by gratuitously offending another.
Of course there may be liberals have been critical of radical Islam but they do tend to be call critics of Islamists 'bigot's' etc. But feel free to point out any liberal who has taken a strong unequivocal stand against the failures of Islam and we''ll both salute this person.So liberals don't criticize radical Islam?
Leftists should avoid analogies but this is the general response expected..If I ran down the streets of Harlem wearing a sandwich board that says "I HATE NIGGERS," that neither excuses the likely violent response, nor does it make my actions some boon to the community. Certain folks here seem to have the idea that a giant wrong makes a less significant wrong just a-ok.
Of course there may be liberals have been critical of radical Islam but they do tend to be call critics of Islamists 'bigot's' etc.
But feel free to point out any liberal who has taken a strong unequivocal stand against the failures of Islam and we''ll both salute this person.
The hate and ignorance obviously came from the Muslims, and they have support around the world from other Islamists. It's best not to get confused over who is doing the 'hating' here, and hating enough to murder innocent people.
We have seen their hatreds in Africa, the Middle East and all over the world. It is not American people who are the 'haters'..
Leftists should avoid analogies but this is the general response expected..
Of course there may be liberals have been critical of radical Islam but they do tend to be call critics of Islamists 'bigot's' etc.
But feel free to point out any liberal who has taken a strong unequivocal stand against the failures of Islam and we''ll both salute this person.
Certain parts of it (Islam's horrendous treatment of women, the preponderance of extremism and anti-Semitism among many Muslims, and this ridiculous idea that drawing a picture of a dude is literally the worst thing you can do) don't really deserve to be respected.
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