and pays for it, do you agree that Kyrgyzstan is closest to Moscow stan ?
i am 100% sure Turkey got a deal (Islam, Caliph, etc. ) with Taliban , I love to see Turkey in Moscow´s soft underbelly )))The Turkish forces would have absolutely no power projection, and no ability to threaten Russia in any capacity.
i am 100% sure Turkey got a deal (Islam, Caliph, etc. ) with Taliban , I love to see Turkey in Moscow´s soft underbelly )))
try to google: Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), before posting your nonsense , here
i am 100% sure Turkey got a deal (Islam, Caliph, etc. ) with Taliban ,
you made many good points , still whats about A:s Tajikis (10 000 000?)? will they stay passive toward corrupted Tajikistan´s despot ?I'm sure they do. When they were in Afghanistan they had a deal with the Taliban not to attack one another.
That doesn't really matter, because the Taliban are a home grown insurgency that originated with disillusioned Pashtun. They have no real desire to expand Afghanistan's borders, and their only real border quip is with Pakistan.
you made many good points , still whats about A:s Tajikis (10 000 000?)? will they stay passive toward corrupted Tajikistan´s despot ?
you made many good points , still whats about A:s Tajikis (10 000 000?)? will they stay passive toward corrupted Tajikistan´s despot ?
I think first graders have better knowledge of geography than you since their teacher likely left a globe in the classroom so they could see afghanistan does not border russia.wrong, A-stan is inside of Moscow empire which is great news )) for our liberal order
Not true, the taliban formed from us backed rebels, but so did the northern alliance as well as numerous other groups. By 1992 the soviet planted govt had collapsed, and this was after civil war, later more civil war broke out after the numerous jihadist groups refused to share power, by 1994 the taliban had formed and swept the country proving more unified and more powerful than the fractured islamic groups already there. The northern alliance by the end was the only holdout, but it only held a small section of northeast afghanistan by then.Wrong! The Taliban are the exact same people that the US & Saudi Arabia through Pakistani ISI armed and trained to fight against pro-Soviet Afghans. They only got a new name/designation which in Pashto means "students"
Among those trained and armed by US/Saudi/Pakistani ISI was Mullah Omar, which would eventually become the leader of the Taliban.
Beyond wrong! Quite the opposite! The "Norther Alliance" were the "remnants" of the pro-Soviet Afghans!It's precisely this group that the US fought against using Islamist radicals that it trained, armed and financed with the help of Pakistan!
It's fairly easy to find all kind of details, but it should be pretty obvious from the outset that the pro-Soviets would likely be more secular, while the ones that got funded by the Americans and Saudis would very likely be radical Islamists - as this is what the Saudis seek to promote(Wahhabism). There are not enough secularists in that part of the world to find two groups that would fight against one another.
The US has a long history of using all kinds of radicals, terrorists, dictators, and so on, then at some later time, they'll switch sides and back-stab them(provided Saddam with chemical weapons under dual use to used them against Iranians, then turned on him; used Iranians to fund the Contras; used Noriega then turned on him; helped Gaddafi kidnap dissidents, then turned on him; etc etc)
ps. the same is true for the "secular rebels" sponsored by the US in Syria - nearly all of them are radical Wahhabis .. about the only somewhat secular group in Syria is the one Assad belongs to - but that's politically inconvenient!
The Russian-led CSTO military bloc said on Thursday it was ready to mobilise its full capacity if the situation on Tajikistan's border with Afghanistan deteriorated as a Taliban delegation in Moscow told Russia it did not pose a threat to the region.afghanistan does not border russia.
more like Islamist populists ; yes 2 terrible choices for the local people ....Considering the Taliban are themselves despots?
The Russian-led CSTO military bloc said on Thursday it was ready to mobilise its full capacity if the situation on Tajikistan's border with Afghanistan deteriorated as a Taliban delegation in Moscow told Russia it did not pose a threat to the region.
The CSTO, the six-nation Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO) dominated by Russia, said on Thursday it was ready to use all its resources if necessary to contain a crisis on the border between Afghanistan and Tajikistan, the Interfax news agency reported.
The U.S. exit from Afghanistan is a headache for Moscow which fears spiralling fighting may push refugees into Central Asia, create a jihadist threat and even stir civil war in one ex-Soviet state, a former Russian diplomat and two analysts have told Reuters. read more
Russia-led bloc ready to act if Afghan border unravels, Taliban reassures Moscow
The Russian-led CSTO military bloc said on Thursday it was ready to mobilise its full capacity if the situation on Tajikistan's border with Afghanistan deteriorated as a Taliban delegation in Moscow told Russia it did not pose a threat to the region.www.reuters.com
more like Islamist populists ; yes 2 terrible choices for the local people ....
more like Islamist populists ; yes 2 terrible choices for the local people ....
Your inability to read a map does not constitute an emergency on my part!The Russian-led CSTO military bloc said on Thursday it was ready to mobilise its full capacity if the situation on Tajikistan's border with Afghanistan deteriorated as a Taliban delegation in Moscow told Russia it did not pose a threat to the region.
The CSTO, the six-nation Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO) dominated by Russia, said on Thursday it was ready to use all its resources if necessary to contain a crisis on the border between Afghanistan and Tajikistan, the Interfax news agency reported.
The U.S. exit from Afghanistan is a headache for Moscow which fears spiralling fighting may push refugees into Central Asia, create a jihadist threat and even stir civil war in one ex-Soviet state, a former Russian diplomat and two analysts have told Reuters. read more
Russia-led bloc ready to act if Afghan border unravels, Taliban reassures Moscow
The Russian-led CSTO military bloc said on Thursday it was ready to mobilise its full capacity if the situation on Tajikistan's border with Afghanistan deteriorated as a Taliban delegation in Moscow told Russia it did not pose a threat to the region.www.reuters.com
You are all wrong to various degrees.You are spinning tales so far from the truth that they are not even close to reality. [..] One of them was Ahmad Shah Massoud. Who we started to funnel aid through, and became our point man in Afghanistan during and after the war.
The same Ahmad Shah Massoud who became highly placed in the Afghan government.
He distinguished himself as an internationally sponsored insurgent fighter in the 1980s during the Soviet–Afghan War, including Operation Magistral. He earned U.S. praise and was called "goodness personified" by the U.S. officials.[6][7][8] US officials have admitted that during the Soviet-Afghan war he was a prized asset of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).[9] Former U.S. president Ronald Reagan called Jalaluddin Haqqani a "freedom fighter" during the Soviet-Afghan war.[10] By 2004, he was directing pro-Taliban militants to launch a holy war in Afghanistan.
At this early stage, the then Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, Robin Raphel, strongly supported efforts to engage with the Taliban. She also supported a Unocal-led, Taliban-supported pipeline project on trips to Afghanistan and Pakistan in April and August 1996. She was one of the first senior American officials to meet personally with Taliban,[14] including its leader, Mohammed Omar.[15] She called on the international community to "engage the Taliban." Raphel was instrumental in coordinating the State Department's establishment of diplomatic relations with the Taliban shortly after its takeover of Kabul.[16]:300 She welcomed their taking of Kabul in September 1996 as a "positive step".[17][18] Her consistent support for the Taliban from its earliest days earned her the sobriquet "Lady Taliban" and "Godmother to the Taliban" in some circles.
He spent time in Pakistan before returning to Afghanistan when the Soviet–Afghan War began in 1979, at which time the CIA began funding his rapidly growing Hezb-e Islami mujahideen organization through the Pakistani ISI.[5] He received more CIA funding than any other mujahideen leader during the Soviet-Afghan War.
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After the 9/11 attacks in the United States Hekmatyar, who had allegedly "worked closely" with bin Laden in early 1990s declared his opposition to the US campaign in Afghanistan and criticized Pakistan for assisting the United States.
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In May 2006, he released a video to Al Jazeera in which he accused Iran of backing the U.S. in the Afghan conflict and said he was ready to fight alongside Osama bin Laden and blamed the ongoing conflicts in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan on U.S. interference
Received aid =/= “pro Soviet Afghan remnants”
Northern Alliance
You are all wrong to various degrees.
1979-1989
The US supported all kinds of Islamists almost exclusively through Pakistan ISI(which really implied support for the more radical Sunnis, instead of the more moderate Shias). Including many that would become later part of the Taliban.
Among those were Mullah Omar and Jalaluddin Haqqani. You know who Mullah Omar was. About the other one:
1990 - 2001
US interest in Afghanistan decreased considerably. However, they still had some interest in the area, so they were warming up to the Taliban in the hope they would gain an "ally" against Iran.
The non-Taliban leader who got most funding from the US, was not that Massoud, but rather an adversary of his:
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar
late 2001 and later
Actually things started to change following some attack allegedly by bin Laden against some US embassy in 1998.
One of the the most important people that helped the US against the Taliban, was a pro-Soviet fighter:
Abdul Rashid Dostum
If you read the entire post, you may find out.And which of those were pro Soviet Afghan REMNANTS?
If you read the entire post, you may find out.
My answer was crystal clear: read my entire post. You are the dishonest one here, as it is clear that you didn't read my post(or you are just trolling)Vague answers are a sign of dishonesty.
My answer was crystal clear: read my entire post. You are the dishonest one here, as it is clear that you didn't read my post(or you are just trolling)
Vague answers are a sign of dishonesty.
This is all great the only thing I worry about is the things that are happening in CUBATurkey got the military bases in Moscow´s Soft underbelly (Afghanistan) , Great News !!
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I can say , the great move Mr Biden ))) lets keep Moscow barbaric empire busy in Central Asia )))
This is all great the only thing I worry about is the things that are happening in CUBA
we don't need another situation like we had back in the early 1960"s with a Nuke stand off with Russia
Have a nice day
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