Dood...how is stating a FACTUAL EXAMPLE over the top hype and rhetoric?
They're probably looking for both... and it looks to me as if the TSA is using the pat down for terrorism to fulfill their other obligations such as illegal activity. A nice excuse and convenient for the TSA - but again, I'd like to see some statistic on 90+ year old being charged with illegal activity. I'm guessing the 90+ year old demographic will be rather low in comparison to the younger populous.
They're reaching about uncertainly, feeling their way? Pretty sure the TSA agents aren't blindfolded or in a dark room, relying singularly on the sense of touch to figure out where they're going.
Are they blindly searching? Or are they checking a specific and viewable location?
Are they attempting to handle or fondle you for sexual pleasure?
How exactly is groping a factual example? Especially given which definition you were clearly implying by talking about people being "felt up" part and parcel with your use of "grope".
Or maybe we should START frisking everyone that rides a subway...before they go into a mall, before they get into a bus terminal or Amtrack station.
I have a feeling we're going to double down or triple down on the "stupid". Zyph has a valid point... zero tolerance sucks, but if it's not there, the idiocy is all consuming. Until we can breed common sense into people, I'm afraid we're stuck.
When you get the notion where you say, all 95 year old people and people who are 6 will NOT be searched, then you open the door for terrorist cells to utilize people of this age group for their plans. It's not hard to understand. Even if there aren't international terrorists in their 90s, they can still force these people to do what they want, or use them to smuggle drugs. Old women especially have been used to smuggle drugs.
When you get the notion where you say, all 95 year old people and people who are 6 will NOT be searched, then you open the door for terrorist cells to utilize people of this age group for their plans. It's not hard to understand. Even if there aren't international terrorists in their 90s, they can still force these people to do what they want, or use them to smuggle drugs. Old women especially have been used to smuggle drugs.
There will always be something or someone who will not be searched... not all 6 years olds or 95 year old people are searched today either. Can you cite the drug smuggling item please?
Correct, however they're not specifically excluded. There's NO group of people that are ALL searched today.
Ok. I was fairly supportive of the TSA when all this nonsense started. I officially take back my support.
Patting down 6 yr old girls and 95 yr old cancer patients?
Really?
End the pat dows, use the xrays and new scanners on everyone, no choice given.
ends the 'he touched my junk' stuff.
These are their procedures. The daughter even said herself in the interview I understand these are their procedures. Again, is this the best way to run airport security? No, it isn't. Israel's way of interviewing people and profiling (not racially profiling, but actually looking at people and saying, OK, this guy needs some extra screening, then talking to them, you can find a NY Daily News article where the guy, a white christian, says he gets put in the extra interview all the time) works great, but unfortunately that isn't applicable to the US, where thousands of flights go everyday. Israel has what? 50? This is the best solution we have in our current situation. You can all flip out and this will get its 15 minutes of fame tomorrow with all the "**** tsa man mah rights is violated kill tyrannical government" but in the end, this is how things are done.
Try to bring a dangerous weapon on board a plane... I'd like to see what happens to you.
No vance, you don't do that. But the point is - if you can save even one life by doing this, why do you have a problem with it? If going through a little inconviencne at the airport could save the life of an entire airplane, even if an attack will happen once a year, why do you have such an issue?
As for the old women, here's one article from a quick google search: Tag: old woman drug smuggling - Rynski's Blogski
I hear about it all the time from the IEAs who work near the borders though. They have these old women doing these things because they think no one will search them, like some of you would like.
Actually Israel does racial profile.
ATLANTA -- Channel 2 Action News has learned a TSA security worker accused of abducting and sexually assaulting a woman had previously been convicted of misdemeanor harassment and stalking.
Randall King remains hospitalized following a suicide attempt. Police said last Wednesday, King agreed to drive a woman home from the airport. Instead, investigators said King took her to a MARTA station parking lot and placed novelty handcuffs on her.
TSA Worker Accused Of Assault Has Troubled Past
Investigators said he drove her 50 miles away to his home in Troup County and sexually assaulted her. The woman told police that King gave her a suicide note, his car and let her go, investigators said.
A spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration said privacy laws precluded him from releasing any background information on King.
TSA Worker Accused Of Assault Had Prior Record - News Story - WSB Atlanta
Ok. I was fairly supportive of the TSA when all this nonsense started. I officially take back my support.
Patting down 6 yr old girls and 95 yr old cancer patients?
Really?
End the pat dows, use the xrays and new scanners on everyone, no choice given.
ends the 'he touched my junk' stuff.
An 8yo girl was used as a suicide bomber the other day. Yes, it's ugly, but if we don't pat down kids and old people the terrorists would take advantage of that weak spot. Nobody makes you fly, if you don't like it, don't fly. It's the world we live in now.
You righties would be the first ones bitching at Obama if a grandma snuck a bomb in under her diaper and blew a plane up.
How about TSA hiring people with prior sex offenses?
I feel safer already.
j-mac
What race do they profile against?
The multi-layer system begins outside Israel’s biggest port of entry — Ben Gurion airport. Cars approaching the terminal are stopped by guards and asked one or two questions, usually about where they are coming from or what is the purpose of their visit. A nervous response, or one revealing an Arab accent, could trigger further scrutiny even before entering the airport.
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This is also the point where profiling takes place: While most Jewish Israeli citizens will be waved through after the brief conversation, others, mainly Israeli Arabs and non-Jewish visitors, will be taken aside for lengthy questioning and a thorough luggage and physical check.
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An Israeli official aware of the security practices said that profiling is not based solely on ethnic, religious or national affiliation, but rather on a combination of factors that also include behavioral patterns, travel information and previous intelligence.
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