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Trump threatens to veto major defense bill unless Congress repeals Section 230

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Trump threatens to veto major defense bill unless Congress repeals Section 230

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12/1/20
President Trump on Tuesday threatened to veto an annual defense bill authorizing nearly $1 trillion in military spending unless Congress opens the door for Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites to be held legally liable for the way they police their platforms. Trump delivered his ultimatum — calling for the repeal of a federal law known as Section 230 — in a pair of late-night tweets that transformed a critical national security debate into a political war over his unproved allegations that Silicon Valley’s technology giants exhibit systemic bias against conservatives. Unless the “very dangerous & unfair Section 230 is not completely terminated as part of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA),” Trump continued, “I will be forced to unequivocally VETO the Bill when sent to the very beautiful Resolute desk.” Section 230 is a broad, decades-old federal law that spares a wide array of sites and services from being held liable for the content posted by their users — and, in the process, the decisions about the posts, photos and videos that tech companies take down or leave online. It is considered one of the Web’s foundational laws, crafted in large part to facilitate free expression digitally.

Trump’s ultimatum arrives after he previously threatened to veto the roughly $740 billion defense bill, known as the NDAA, over a provision that would require the Pentagon to change the names of 10 military installations that recognize Confederate military officers who fought to preserve slavery. Trump has said he will not allow that to happen, and he grew angry when defense officials said that Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper, whom Trump has since fired, and Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy had signaled openness to the bases being renamed. Sen. James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.), the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, told The Washington Post in an interview last month that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has a policy against putting bills on the floor for a vote when they have a veto threat. But some Republicans in recent days have suggested a trade: Reforming Section 230 in exchange for the base-name changes that Democrats seek, according to a person familiar with the matter, who requested anonymity to describe the private conversations. Democrats largely have balked at the idea, the source said.


Once again (Ukraine was the initial attempt), Donald Trump is holding Congressional defense funding hostage unless he gets his way. Trump demands that.....
  • 1) US Army bases named after Confederate Generals and slave traders must keep these names. Trump has a love for the Confederacy (and slavery apparently).
  • 2) Trump demands that Internet Section 230 be removed. This statute protects social media platforms from Trumps vindictiveness for pointing out when he is lying.
Pretty soon you'll be gone Donnie and can't screw over the military anymore. **** you.
 
There's new confidence in overriding a veto because the House in Conference Committee with the Senate adopted the Senate provision to extend the Confederate crap timeline to 3 years instead of one year.


Congress Likely to Override Trump Veto on Changing Army Base Names, Key Lawmaker Says

Military.com

Congress likely has the votes to override President Donald Trump's threatened veto of the entire defense policy bill over a provision that would change the names of Army bases honoring Confederate generals, according to a top member of the House Armed Services Committee. "I think the president is going to be hard-pressed to veto over that issue," said Rep. Anthony Brown, D-Maryland, a retired Army colonel and committee vice chair.


Congress has been unable to override a veto, which requires a two-thirds vote in the House and Senate, since Trump has been in office, but "this may very well be the first that we would override," Brown said at a July 31 virtual forum hosted by Center for Strategic and International Studies. In his 30-year Army career, Brown said he served at several of the bases in question. He said troops now in the military are "much more aware of these things," particularly in the aftermath of the Black Lives Matter protests nationwide. Brown also praised moves by the Marine Corps and the Navy to ban displays of the Confederate flag on bases. The then Defense Secretary Mark Esper said July 10 the only flags approved for display on bases are the U.S. flag; the flags of states and territories; the POW-MIA flag; those of allied countries; unit flags; senior leader flags; and flags flown for protocol purposes.



There are also provisions on the internet Section 230 and new severe sanctions against Russian Gazprom owned Nord Stream 2 under the Baltic and Gazprom owned Turkstream under the Black Sea each of which are under the same sanctions on the same timeline.

Some reports are circulating Trump would accept the base renaming provision he personally doesn't much care about if the internet Section 230 that hits him personally is removed. Other reports say this, if it were to occur, would strengthen the possibility of an override.
 
Defense Bill Released Without Section 230 Repeal, Despite Trump's Threats to Veto

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12/4/20
Bipartisan lawmakers are moving forward with a version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that does not include a repeal of key protections for tech companies, despite President Donald Trump's threat to veto a bill without the provision. A final draft of the NDAA revealed on Thursday does not include a repeal of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, a law that allows tech companies to engage in good-faith moderation of third party content online while shielding them from legal liabilities related to the content. Twitter and Facebook have censored or labelled posts by Trump for spreading false or misleading information this year, notably including those focused on the president's evidence-free claims that mail-in ballots are rife with fraud. "If the very dangerous & unfair Section 230 is not completely terminated as part of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), I will be forced to unequivocally VETO the Bill when sent to the very beautiful Resolute desk," Trump tweeted on Tuesday.


Congress has apparently decided to call Trump's bluff.
 
The House passed the National Defense Authorization Act 335-78 and the Senate also passed the bill by a vote of 84-13 — giving final approval to the measure with a veto-proof majority after President Donald Trump threatened to spike it unless it included his demands to change internet liability laws (strike down Section 230), and cease reforms to rename Army military bases named after Confederate officers and slave-holders.

Trump can veto the HDAA, but Congress has the votes to override any Trump veto.
 
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