I never saw Trump as a peacenik. But those who falsely claimed I did, and spent 2 years demanding apology each time Trump posted a belligerent tweet, have fallen silent as he enters the 3rd year of his presidency having started no new wars & trying to end 2 of those he inherited:
As we come on three years now with no new wars...
As we come on three years now with no new wars, and with Trump struggling against the Washington, DC establishment to roll back the wars we are in, the people who were screeching and screaming that Trump was going to get us into war with the Norks or into WWIII look pretty silly now.
Those who actually looked into what Trump was saying back then and what Trump is like told ya. He said the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. He even went to the extreme of saying that Bush lied about the reason for it. He emphasized and bemoaned the burden these endless wars puts on ordinary military people.
And it is beginning to dawn on some people that there is a big difference between Trump's sometimes belligerent rhetoric and what he actually does.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1077214937410400256
As sad as it is that this is viewed as some kind of remarkable accomplishment, your incoherent grasp of time and/or the English language is even more worrying. Trump has been president for less than two years :roll:
As we come on three years now with no new wars, and with Trump struggling against the Washington, DC establishment to roll back the wars we are in, the people who were screeching and screaming that Trump was going to get us into war with the Norks or into WWIII look pretty silly now.
Those who actually looked into what Trump was saying back then and what Trump is like told ya. He said the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. He even went to the extreme of saying that Bush lied about the reason for it. He emphasized and bemoaned the burden these endless wars puts on ordinary military people.
And it is beginning to dawn on some people that there is a big difference between Trump's sometimes belligerent rhetoric and what he actually does.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1077214937410400256
Trump was for the invasion before he was against.Those who actually looked into what Trump was saying back then and what Trump is like told ya. He said the invasion of Iraq was a mistake.
It’s easy to understand why you’ve chosen The Parser as your screen name. Cutting out pertinent details and only focusing on one’s that appear to make your desired point.Bush, Sr., invaded defenseless little Panama.
Bush, Jr., invaded Iraq (with disastrous results).
Obama overthrew that guy in Libya (with disastrous results).
I am not on "the left" and I do like the idea of getting out of useless conflicts in the ME and really, anywhere in the world.
That said, you can both simultaneously be for withdrawal and against the manner in which Trump is going about it.
No?
Some people act as if the latter does not matter.
Might you elaborate on what the correct way to bring the troops home from a mission that is military aggression under international law might be?
Working it out behind closed doors and announcing only what is necessary for public consumption. Not tweeting about while military leaders scramble to play catch up to a rash decision.
Because the public deserves to be kept in the dark?
Iraqi’s are better off today than they were under Hussein’s reign.
Bush, Sr., invaded defenseless little Panama.
Bush, Jr., invaded Iraq (with disastrous results).
Obama overthrew that guy in Libya (with disastrous results).
Trump wants us to keep our nose out of other people's business.
I have a suspicion that some fair-minded liberals (there are a few!) admire President Trump's foreign policy decisions, but they are, understandably, terrified of letting their liberal friends know.
As we come on three years now with no new wars, and with Trump struggling against the Washington, DC establishment to roll back the wars we are in, the people who were screeching and screaming that Trump was going to get us into war with the Norks or into WWIII look pretty silly now.
Those who actually looked into what Trump was saying back then and what Trump is like told ya. He said the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. He even went to the extreme of saying that Bush lied about the reason for it. He emphasized and bemoaned the burden these endless wars puts on ordinary military people.
And it is beginning to dawn on some people that there is a big difference between Trump's sometimes belligerent rhetoric and what he actually does.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1077214937410400256
I agree with the idea that we should not be policing the middle east, but that doesn't mean I agree with what Trump is doing, which is capitulating to Iran, Russia and Turkey.
You paint a rather rosey picture of Iraq prior to the U.S. invasion that requires adjusting with facts:You, like me, are entitled to your opinion.
I think that many people (such as I) respectfully disagree with you.
Yes, Hussein was brutal.
But we should have let the Iraqis handle him.
The war was absolutely ghastly. Horrible.
Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died.
Before the war, Iraqis lived a relatively good life: Women and even gays had more rights than in most Arab countries.
The war caused unspeakable suffering to the common people. Iraq was also no longer a buffer between Iran and the Arab world. It made possible those horrible individuals who call themselves ISIS.
President George Walker Bush should have resigned as a way to apologize for what he did.
I respectfully disagree that he is "capitulating" to those three bad guys.
Our President is very clever. (What a guy!)
He is letting those three bad guys get bogged down in the Middle East (just as we got bogged down in Vietnam).
I would not be surprised if eventually the leaders of those three countries are forced into "retirement" because of the absolute mess that they are getting their countries into.
And don't be surprised if those three bad guys start fighting among themselves. (How sweet it would be!)
I respectfully disagree that he is "capitulating" to those three bad guys.
Our President is very clever. (What a guy!)
He is letting those three bad guys get bogged down in the Middle East (just as we got bogged down in Vietnam).
I would not be surprised if eventually the leaders of those three countries are forced into "retirement" because of the absolute mess that they are getting their countries into.
And don't be surprised if those three bad guys start fighting among themselves. (How sweet it would be!)
As sad as it is that this is viewed as some kind of remarkable accomplishment, your incoherent grasp of time and/or the English language is even more worrying. Trump has been president for less than two years :roll:
The move by Trump seems impulsive to me.
Thank you for your opinion.
We have been in that country since the days of the George Walker Bush administration.
No other president has had the guts to realize that Afghanistan is a basket case.
This president has had the courage to realize that enough is enough.
I would not call that "impulsive."
I would label it as "realistic."
As we come on three years now with no new wars, and with Trump struggling against the Washington, DC establishment to roll back the wars we are in, the people who were screeching and screaming that Trump was going to get us into war with the Norks or into WWIII look pretty silly now.
Those who actually looked into what Trump was saying back then and what Trump is like told ya. He said the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. He even went to the extreme of saying that Bush lied about the reason for it. He emphasized and bemoaned the burden these endless wars puts on ordinary military people.
And it is beginning to dawn on some people that there is a big difference between Trump's sometimes belligerent rhetoric and what he actually does.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1077214937410400256
I respectfully disagree that he is "capitulating" to those three bad guys.
Our President is very clever. (What a guy!)
He is letting those three bad guys get bogged down in the Middle East (just as we got bogged down in Vietnam).
I would not be surprised if eventually the leaders of those three countries are forced into "retirement" because of the absolute mess that they are getting their countries into.
And don't be surprised if those three bad guys start fighting among themselves. (How sweet it would be!)
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