Trump supporters: how bad does the economy have to get before you stop supporting Trump? (1 Viewer)

[W_Heisenberg]

Simple question.

Stock futures down again.

No big deals in site.

Trump does not seem to be backing down from tariffs.

Bond yields rising.

Dollar falling.

 

[Callen]

Trumpers will never blame him, it will be somebody else's fault. Republicans who simply made a binary choice are already cooling in their support.

 

[Allan]

Trumpers will never blame him, it will be somebody else's fault. Republicans who simply made a binary choice are already cooling in their support.

There is a person on the forum blaming investors for losing their retirement nest eggs - referring to them dismissively as "gamblers".

 

[Mycroft]

Stock futures down again.

Trump supporters: how bad does the economy have to get before you stop supporting Trump?​

A better question: How bad does the fear and panic of the futures market gamblers have to get before people with money to invest stop supporting those gamblers?

 

[Helix]

It will take their kids going hungry and having severely limited access to health care. That's what usually does it for undereducated people.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Trump supporters: how bad does the economy have to get before you stop supporting Trump?​

A better question: How bad does the fear and panic of the futures market gamblers have to get before people with money to invest stop supporting those gamblers?

You didn’t vote yet.

If you’re not willing to assign your name to a poll answer I’m not so sure I should believe anything else you write in this thread

 

[Mycroft]

You didn’t vote yet.

If you’re not willing to assign your name to a poll answer I’m not so sure I should believe anything else you write in this thread

I don't need a poll to express myself. I am perfectly capable of speaking my mind.

You, of course, are free to believe whatever your bias allows you to believe.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

I don't need a poll to express myself. I am perfectly capable of speaking my mind.

You, of course, are free to believe whatever your bias allows you to believe.

Good idea. I will act on my belief.

If you don't want to answer the poll question, that's fine. I'll answer it for you.

Is that okay?

Can I mark "I will support Trump no matter how bad things get" down for you?

Would I be biased against you or Trump to assume you are going to support Trump no matter what happens?

 

[Mycroft]

Good idea. I will act on my belief.

If you don't want to answer the poll question, that's fine. I'll answer it for you.

LOL!!

You can act how you wish, but the fact is, you can NEVER answer for me. Only for yourself.

 

[jaypatriot]

Simple question.

Stock futures down again.

No big deals in site.

Trump does not seem to be backing down from tariffs.

Bond yields rising.

Dollar falling.

Give us a hint: What does "stop supporting Trump" actually mean? And, moreover, what difference would it make if you actually explained what you mean by those three words.?
How do Americans who voted for Trump now "stop supporting" him just 100 days into his presidency?

 

[W_Heisenberg]

LOL!!

You can act how you wish, but the fact is, you can NEVER answer for me. Only for yourself.

Every day, Trump acts on your behalf. He’s not speaking for you or putting words in your mouth, he’s acting in your name.

May I act on your behalf by selecting: “I will support Trump no matter how bad things get”?

Is that a true reflection of your opinion? If that is not a true reflection of your opinion, I'd like to know.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Give us a hint: What does "stop supporting Trump" actually mean? And, moreover, what difference would it make if you actually explained what you mean by those three words.? How do Americans who voted for Trump now "stop supporting" him just 100 days into his presidency?

It's a completely open-ended question. It can mean whatever you want it to mean, but if you need some suggestions, I certainly have some:

• Simply stop defending him online, in conversation, or in the media.
• Admit your support of Trump was a big mistake.
• Oppose Trump's tariff policies.
• Stop spreading pro-Trump propaganda.
• Speak out publicly against harmful policies.
• Speak out privately against harmful policies.
• Disengage from Trump-linked organizations.
• Refuse to donate to Trump-linked organizations.
• Support anti-Trump candidates in GOP primaries.
• Vote against Trump-aligned candidates.
• Pressure elected officials to oppose Trump's policies.
• Join anti-Trump protests.
• Stop consuming right-wing media content.
• Privately or publicly express your change in views to friends, family, and co-workers.
• Support investigations, lawsuits, or impeachment efforts against Trump.

And, moreover, what difference would it make if you actually explained what you mean by those three words.?

Despite everything, I still care what you think. That's why. I care about you and I care about America. That's why I'm asking.

 

[Peacenik]

It's a completely open-ended question. It can mean whatever you want it to mean, but if you need some suggestions, I certainly have some:

• Simply stop defending him online, in conversation, or in the media.
• Admit your support of Trump was a big mistake.
• Oppose Trump's tariff policies.
• Stop spreading pro-Trump propaganda.
• Speak out publicly against harmful policies.
• Speak out privately against harmful policies.
• Disengage from Trump-linked organizations.
• Refuse to donate to Trump-linked organizations.
• Support anti-Trump candidates in GOP primaries.
• Vote against Trump-aligned candidates.
• Pressure elected officials to oppose Trump's policies.
• Join anti-Trump protests.
• Stop consuming right-wing media content.
• Privately or publicly express your change in views to friends, family, and co-workers.
• Support investigations, lawsuits, or impeachment efforts against Trump.

Despite everything, I still care what you think. That's why. I care about you and I care about America. That's why I'm asking.

How about join the many public protests against Donald?

That would be a good answer.

 

[jaypatriot]

It's a completely open-ended question. It can mean whatever you want it to mean, but if you need some suggestions, I certainly have some:

• Simply stop defending him online, in conversation, or in the media.
• Admit your support of Trump was a big mistake.
• Oppose Trump's tariff policies.
• Stop spreading pro-Trump propaganda.
• Speak out publicly against harmful policies.
• Speak out privately against harmful policies.
• Disengage from Trump-linked organizations.
• Refuse to donate to Trump-linked organizations.
• Support anti-Trump candidates in GOP primaries.
• Vote against Trump-aligned candidates.
• Pressure elected officials to oppose Trump's policies.
• Join anti-Trump protests.
• Stop consuming right-wing media content.
• Privately or publicly express your change in views to friends, family, and co-workers.
• Support investigations, lawsuits, or impeachment efforts against Trump.

Despite everything, I still care what you think. That's why. I care about you and I care about America. That's why I'm asking.

Good job Heisenberg. We could start many threads of discussion based on all the suggestions you have to "stop supporting" Trump.
You've reinforced my decision to NOT donate to anything having to do with Trump. See? I'm already following your advice.
But joining anti-Trump protests could make me look like a whining Democrat wandering around looking for a cause the party needs to survive.

 

[VanceMack]

Leftists have spent a long time ****ing things up. Change is hard. Harder when you have morons in the media and a rat party feeding hate and lies and doom to the all too eager mindless baby birds waiting for them to vomit the message of the day into their mouths.

Meanwhile...investment in US jobs has increased. Inflation has stabilized. Employment figures continue to improve. Nations are coming to the table to renegotiate trade deals that are fair and equitable. China is looking at getting their economic ass kicked as other developing nations are stepping up, eager to take on workload that may no longer be done in China. Just three months in and we will see the energy sector increasing production to better meet both domestic and foreign trade needs. The southern border was secured in less than 3 months...no small feat considering the ****ing disaster the previous administrations policies were. The idiotic green trainwreck is at least put on hold. And while the markets are down, they are nowhere near where they were during the Biden administration where the mindless minions kept repeating the rat party line...all is welll!!! all is well!!!!!

It remains comical that people that were gladly defending a ****ing dumpster fire are now shitting themselves over the attempts to put the fire out.

 

[WillyPete]

They are leveraging their ignorance for all it's worth, clinging to this vanishingly small hope that either:


A: Tariffs actually are a good thing, in spite of them being well understand and very predictable in their effects.

B: That Trump extorts a significant number of major nations into making bad trade deals for themselves, so that he can withdraw the tariffs, which are terrible except when used in extortion schemes.


Tariffs are either good or bad policy, but Trump hasn't decided which yet.

It's just the sort of genius he is, so far beyond our crude intellects.

 

[Mycroft]

Every day, Trump acts on your behalf. He’s not speaking for you or putting words in your mouth, he’s acting in your name.

He is acting on my behalf because I voted for him.

May I act on your behalf by selecting: “I will support Trump no matter how bad things get”?

No.

I didn't vote for you.

Is that a true reflection of your opinion? If that is not a true reflection of your opinion, I'd like to know.

Now you know.

 

[Taylor]

A dip in the stock market is not "the economy"

 

[Integrityrespec]

Simple question.

Stock futures down again.

No big deals in site.

Trump does not seem to be backing down from tariffs.

Bond yields rising.

Dollar falling.

Clowns on the left stuck with Biden until the man literally could not walk, talk, think, find his way off a stage,without help. He fell asleep during meetings, he snuck out of meeting to go nap by the pool, he didn't know where he was, who he was, who the people around him were. He facilitated the illegal entry of millions of people into the U.S. in total disregard to immigration law. He spent billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars on something that all polling says the American people were against. Many of these illegal immigrants had criminal records, often violent, and yet he let them in. When they continued their violence upon American citizens he and his party simply turned their heads and ignored it.

Here's a partial list of some of the women, girls, men and children murdered by illegals encouraged and allowed to come into the U.S. under the democrats control in the past administration.
I guess crimes by the people democrats allowed into the country don't count, and the deaths of these people did receive much notice by the democrats who opened the door to the illegals who killed them.
The "say their name" campaign by democrats went out the window pretty damned quick.

Jocelyn Nungaray, 12​

Gloria Cascio, 53​

Ruby Garcia, 25​

Christopher Gadd, 27​

Travis Wolfe, 12​

Alex Wise Jr., 10​

Lizbeth Medina, 16​

Jeremy Poou-Caceres, 2​

Laken Riley, 22​

Melissa Powell, 47, and Riordan Powell, 16​

Aiden Clark, 11​

Rachel Morin, 37​

13 People Whose Lives Were Cut Short by Illegal Immigrants in Past Year

More American lives are being lost at the hands of illegal aliens, coinciding with an increase in the number of criminals crossing the border.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[Lycanthrope]

Silly rabbit - if the econony is bad under His Majesty's reign, that is the fault of lib obstructionists and false Christians who need to patiently endure suffering instead of whining about short term high prices while Donald transforms America into Murica.

 

[Peacenik]

The first answer is bound to be the most honest answer.

The problem is first, the cult member has to decide to essentially leave the peer pressure group. Most magas have lots of maga friends they are influenced by. The cult is a self reinforcing group. Maga cult members are influenced by right wing media, of course, but also they are heavily influenced by rumors within the group, and by how they perceive their friends' views about them. If they share support for Donald, it acts as a positive endorphin rush within the peer pressure group. Maga cult members reaffirm one another in their support for Donald. This is powerful and it gives them the confidence to ignore facts by exchanging rumors that the facts presented come from 'the left which lies and cannot be trusted' and from 'leftist media' which they believe is part of the 'deep state.'

It's not like maga cultists are critical of Donald. They are not. They are instead defensive of him. It doesn't matter what Donald has done or is accused of. The cult comes to his defense. They never consider reducing their support for him. He has told them to prepare for bad times before times get good. They will accept that because Donald is their god. His word is divine to cultists. In their eyes, he can do no wrong. He is perfect, and can never make a mistake.

Cultists would first have to leave the cult. Second they would, in so doing, have to admit they were wrong to support him. Most maga cultists are similar to Donald in that they rarely ever admit fault to anything. They always avoid admitting fault. That is another reason for them to stay the course and stay in the cult.

It is going to take quite a lot to break the cult. It almost has to happen all at once. There are 2 very strong reasons for cult members to remain in the cult:

1. Lose friends, lose the support of fellow cult members. Face being shamed. Face being called names. Face being called rino, being excommunicated. Face being treated the way they themselves have treated the left, and never-Trumpers.
2. Have to admit fault.

Because most cult members are loathe to face either of the above, they are likely to be in it for life, no matter what.

The only thing that would do it would be if Donald himself fessed up that it was all a ruse for Donald to get power, wealth and attention. Donald will die before he does that, so cult members will die before they drop their support.

 

[Gordy327]

How bad? It's already bad enough. Tariffs do not help.

 

[craig]

Trump supporters: how bad does the economy have to get before you stop supporting Trump?​

A better question: How bad does the fear and panic of the futures market gamblers have to get before people with money to invest stop supporting those gamblers?

Investing in U.S. equities is investing in the future of America. I don't consider that gambling unless you mean betting on Trump destroying it all. The probability of that is increasing. Trump has taken government interference in business to a level last seen in the U.S.S.R. His second term is now being called the Four Year Plan.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Now you know.

I know you believe Trump is acting on your behalf because you voted for him. You made that clear.

I know you don't want me to select the poll answer on your behalf. You made that clear.

However, I still don't know what you think about the poll question and its answers. You have not made that clear. You still haven't directly answered the question in my previous post, and I don't see your response in the poll.

Is this an accurate reflection of your opinion:

"I will support Trump no matter how bad things get."

Will you support Trump no matter how bad things get?

Yes, or no.

I assume you'd answer yes, but the fact you haven't answered leads me to believe there may come a time, hypothetically, where you'd stop supporting Trump. But I am not sure. Is it true there would come a point in time you'd stop supporting Trump? Maybe I am too optimistic. Maybe you're such a hardcore Trump supporter you wouldn't ever withhold your support for him, no matter how bad things get.

 

[antiquity]

Trumpers will never blame him, it will be somebody else's fault. Republicans who simply made a binary choice are already cooling in their support.

liberals/progressives/democrats supported Biden even when they knew he was a demented old fool who spent most of his time on the beach while others ran the government. Funny how they claim failing support for Trump while having faithful trust in Biden.