Oh 'other ports...other articles...other other other...'
Its so heart warming to see such Libbie care for fellow Americans. 'They can die and be raped...as long as Trump never gets his wall.'
Gee...aren't you an impressive citizen of the USA.
The wall won't help things. Most illegal aliens get in through other ways that won't be solved by a wall. It is foolishly naive to think that any significant change in illegal immigration will happen so long as we build a wall. That is stupid.
I think what you just said it stupid. Try and understand...just as the walls of your house work...so do walls in general.
The walls in my house only work to keep some things out, which is why we have a hepa filter and an exterminator doing preventative sprays every few months, as well as a heating and AC unit. Those walls only keep so much out. And they wouldn't keep out a determined person (go watch any zombie movie and see how well the walls keep out determined, brainless zombies who have no other purpose except to feed). And since the people that the wall is supposedly going to keep out have not only other ways of getting in, but also have a specific purpose for going over or around the wall any way they can, it isn't likely to keep them out.
Zombie movies???
Really...Zombie Movies???
You were the one who started off by trying to suggest that walls of a home and walls on a border between countries are there for the same purposes.
Besides zombie movies would be a good comparison to show the lengths that a large group of people would go through to get what they want. The vast majority on the border right now, sitting there are desperate and have single goal, getting into the US by any means necessary so that they can file for asylum. It doesn't matter if the majority aren't going to get it. They likely will just run if that is likely to happen, but the wall is not going to keep out immigrants with this purpose. It simply isn't.
Walls and houses are what we like to call "real".
Zombies? Not so much eh?
Getting into the USA by any means necessary. And yet...'Oh there's no crisis." :roll:
Instead of parroting dumb-ass crap that's obviously wrong...why don't you explain how you figure that;
A. Walls don't work
B. How flooding the USA with these unskilled migrants is gonna benefit the citizens of America?
There isn't a "crisis" because this has been going on for decades. Additionally, building a wall to handle the issue is like sending in the Army to stop a tornado, pointless.
I never said either of those things. I'm saying walls don't work to fix this issue, certainly are not cost effective in the purpose, to reduce illegal immigration significantly. I have never once contended that flooding the US with unskilled migrants benefits us. What I am saying is that we need to fight this issue by doing smart things that actually are cost effective, instead of building a stupid wall that is going to do very little to fix anything and cost us a hell of a lot of money to do that very little to nothing for the actual issue.
How about you actually counter what I've been arguing rather than making **** up. Oh, and you know why putting up a wall in this issue is far less effective than even if we were in a zombie apocalypse? Because these people can easily figure out ways around the wall, like most people who are illegally in this country now have already done.
Barack Obama, 2005: “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the U.S. undocumented, undetected, unchecked, circumventing the people who are waiting patiently, diligently, lawfully to become immigrants in this country.”
Hillary Clinton, 2014: “I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in and I do think you have to control your borders.”
Sen. Chuck Schumer, 2009: “People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who enter the U.S. legally. The American people will never accept immigration reform unless they truly believe that their government is committed to ending future illegal immigration.”
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 2008: “We do need to address the issue of immigration and the challenge we have of undocumented people in our country. We certainly do not want any more coming in.”
Sen. Bernie Sanders, 2007: “I don’t know why we need millions of people to be coming into the country who will work for lower wages than American workers and drives wages down even lower than they are right now.”
Ex-Sen. Harry Reid, 1993: “If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn’t enough, how about offering a reward for being an illegal alien? No sane country would do that, right? Guess again … (If you’re an illegalimmigrant who gives birth in the U.S. you can go on welfare immediately.) Is it any wonder that two-thirds of the babies born at taxpayer expense in the county-run hospitals in Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers?”
Democratic Party platform 1996: “We cannot tolerate illegal immigration and we must stop it … (At the border before Bill Clinton) drugs flowed freely. Illegal immigration was rampant. Criminal immigrants, deported after committing crimes in America, returned the very next day to commit crimes again. … We continue to firmly oppose welfare benefits for illegal immigrants. We believe family members who sponsor immigrants into this country should take financial responsibility for them, and be held legally responsible for supporting them.”
Ahem...
Doesn't change any part of my argument. Again, I am opposed to illegal immigration. I am also opposed to wasting money on the least likely thing to stop it, a wall, especially when that wall is going to cost a hell of a lot of money to build vice other things that can be done that will have far greater effect at the same or even lower costs.
Well...considering the laws of physics...and the proof that already exists about border walls...you would be, what we like to call...WRONG!
Now why don't you just cease with this asinine BS you're trying to push.
WALLS WORK.!
Border residents fought more than a third of all land transfers, in fact. Because the Constitution promises just compensation for takings, Trump can do little to speed this process.
And desperate people find ways across. Especially in large numbers.One viral video from 2010 shows two women easily climbing an 18-foot steel bollard-style pedestrian fence in less than 20 seconds. Smugglers can even drive over the fence using ramps, a fact that was discovered only when a couple of foolish drug entrepreneurs managed to get their SUV stuck on top. (They took the dope and split.)
Effective tunnel detection equipment is seen as the Holy Grail of Border Patrol enforcement, but the Homeland Security Department’s Science and Technology Directorate has so far concluded that no current technology for detecting tunnels beneath the border is “suited to Border Patrol agents’ operational needs.”
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