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Trump Sends Market INTO PANIC with his DISASTER WEEK

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One strategist lifts recession probability to 75% after Trump’s win and recommends how to position for it​

The benefit from tax cuts may be outweighed by the damage done by tariffs​


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/o...nd-recommends-how-to-position-for-it-6d482eb9

We told you this would happen..................Hold on to you 401K's and get ready for "hardships". It is what you voted for. Elon says it is for your own good so no whining.
 
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I don't think that the markets 'hate' Trump yet, but there certainly appears to be some uncertainty and a degree of concern. The concern was already there pre election because Trumps 2024 policies are very likely to increase recessionary pressure in an already vulnerable global economy. Trump is quite likely to be the catalyst for a global meltdown in 2025. Perhaps a very significant recessionary effect at a time when most countries economies have not fully recovered from the previous recession during Trumps last term. The cost of baling out yet another recession when most countries are still baling out the last one to some extent is going to really worry the markets. there is definitely potential for a severe down turn.

Right now the markets appear to be in a bit of a holding pattern. There was the 'traditional' small lift associated with the election, but since then a drift back to wards pre-election levels. No mad panic yet, but I don't think that it would take a lot to see negative sentiment grow quite quickly. I also think that Trumps selections for his senior leadership team are not doing the markets any favours. Some are pretty unhinged, and that isn't what the markets want to see.
 
Market risk isn't with Trump, rather it's with various potential asset bubbles out there. To me AI and bitcoin would be the two most likely suspects. Another thing to watch out for is consumer debt, especially with credit card and car loans. It has the potential to bring down banking. Wall Street climbs a mountain of worry. There's always something looming out there. With Trump, I think most of his ideas will get watered down to something we can easily digest where he and we can claim victory. Remember, Trump is a moderate. He's always itching to go to the next big thing.
 
iguanaman said:


One strategist lifts recession probability to 75% after Trump’s win and recommends how to position for it​

The benefit from tax cuts may be outweighed by the damage done by tariffs​


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/o...nd-recommends-how-to-position-for-it-6d482eb9

We told you this would happen..................Hold on to you 401K's and get ready for "hardships". It is what you voted for. Elon says it is for your own good so no whining.
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The market was already vulnerable. It just needed an idiot to push it over the top. Congratulations, MAGA! :ROFLMAO:
 
dmpi said:
Market risk isn't with Trump, rather it's with various potential asset bubbles out there. To me AI and bitcoin would be the two most likely suspects. Another thing to watch out for is consumer debt, especially with credit card and car loans. It has the potential to bring down banking. Wall Street climbs a mountain of worry. There's always something looming out there. With Trump, I think most of his ideas will get watered down to something we can easily digest where he and we can claim victory. Remember, Trump is a moderate. He's always itching to go to the next big thing.
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My biggest short term concern are Trumps tariffs. These are things that he could try and implement quite quickly, and the world is already struggling with significant trade issues. They might be enough to start a serious trade war, and if they do, we are all going to feel the results of that in a bad way imo.
 
iguanaman said:


One strategist lifts recession probability to 75% after Trump’s win and recommends how to position for it​

The benefit from tax cuts may be outweighed by the damage done by tariffs​


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/o...nd-recommends-how-to-position-for-it-6d482eb9

We told you this would happen..................Hold on to you 401K's and get ready for "hardships". It is what you voted for. Elon says it is for your own good so no whining.
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iguanaman said:


One strategist lifts recession probability to 75% after Trump’s win and recommends how to position for it​

The benefit from tax cuts may be outweighed by the damage done by tariffs​


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/o...nd-recommends-how-to-position-for-it-6d482eb9

We told you this would happen..................Hold on to you 401K's and get ready for "hardships". It is what you voted for. Elon says it is for your own good so no whining.
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If there is a recession, it is a product of the Biden/Harris economy.

There is a reason why 48/50 states shifted right.
 
he essence of Berezin’s reasoning is that any benefit for the economy from Trump’s tax cuts and deregulation would not be enough to counteract the damage from targeted government spending cuts and tariffs on imports.
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LMAO
 
dmpi said:
Market risk isn't with Trump, rather it's with various potential asset bubbles out there. To me AI and bitcoin would be the two most likely suspects. Another thing to watch out for is consumer debt, especially with credit card and car loans. It has the potential to bring down banking. Wall Street climbs a mountain of worry. There's always something looming out there. With Trump, I think most of his ideas will get watered down to something we can easily digest where he and we can claim victory. Remember, Trump is a moderate. He's always itching to go to the next big thing.
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LOL Trump is not a moderate. The only victory he really wants is over our Constitution. The economy will go down first though.
 
Bucky said:
If there is a recession, it is a product of the Biden/Harris economy.

There is a reason why 48/50 states shifted right.
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Trump will own the recession and it will be his policies that will cause it. Even Elon knows that so stop whining about Biden. He is not going to be President. I hope your job is secure there are going to be a lot of layoffs.

Elon Musk agrees: Trump’s economic plans will lead to ‘hardship’ and cause markets to ‘tumble’​

The former president’s wealthy allies are promoting the idea of economic collapse and high prices as a necessary side effect of Trump’s economic agenda

https://www.the-independent.com/new...lon-musk-economy-trump-hardship-b2637850.html
 
Hamish Howl said:
I wouldn't really expect MAGA to understand causality or unintended consequences.
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If the left understood causality, they'd understand why their 2019 last place appointee did poorly and realize it wasn't because over half of America are dumb, racist misogynists.
 
Cosmo said:
Cool story, but the fact is he appointed Constitutional justices that got rid of unconstitutional Roe and also some anti-2nd amendment junk.
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A bunch of his EO's will be going to the Supreme Court also. We will see how they react to them.
 
Cosmo said:
If the left understood causality, they'd understand why their 2019 last place appointee did poorly and realize it wasn't because over half of America are dumb, racist misogynists.
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We will see how America acts to Trump's inflationary policies. I don't think higher inflation is what they voted for. Not that Trump cares a hoot.
 
Hamish Howl said:
I wouldn't really expect MAGA to understand causality or unintended consequences.
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LMAO. your ignorance of government debt is appalling.. Im going to wait on the tariffs to se if they are targeted to sectors to save jobs and bring back industry, I dont want tariffs on every little thing either.

The horrors of cutting back on government spending :eek: 35 trillion and 3 trillion more debt each year is a good thing? :rolleyes:
www.cnbc.com

The U.S. national debt is rising by $1 trillion about every 100 days

The nation's debt now stands at nearly $34.4 trillion.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
Cosmo said:
If the left understood causality, they'd understand why their 2019 last place appointee did poorly and realize it wasn't because over half of America are dumb, racist misogynists.
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Yeah, yeah it was.

Also the progs had weird ideas that Trump would go easier on Gaza.

I had a good laugh about that.
 
anatta said:
LMAO. your ignorance of government debt is appalling.. Im going to wait on the tariffs to se if they are targeted to sectors to save jobs and bring back industry, I dont want tariffs on every little thing either.
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What they're going to do is drive prices up, reducing disposable income and cutting the nuts off of the economy.
anatta said:
The horrors of cutting back on government spending :eek: 35 trillion and 3 trillion more debt each year is a good thing? :rolleyes:
www.cnbc.com

The U.S. national debt is rising by $1 trillion about every 100 days

The nation's debt now stands at nearly $34.4 trillion.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
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And taking an unplanned hacksaw to essential services is going to do what?

When was the last time austerity measures worked?
 
iguanaman said:
A bunch of his EO's will be going to the Supreme Court also. We will see how they react to them.
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Is this some kind of sick joke? You know damned well what that pack of dominionist ****wads are going to do.
 
Hamish Howl said:
What they're going to do is drive prices up, reducing disposable income and cutting the nuts off of the economy.
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it's in the way they are imposed, they were not inflationary last time Trump used them
Hamish Howl said:
And taking an unplanned hacksaw to essential services is going to do what?
When was the last time austerity measures worked?
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austerity? adding 3 trillion a year is all essential services?? Spoken like a true Dem.

See what Elon comes up with - i think we can safely cut back on foreign wars for ex. and this will be an extra-governmental commission so no politics involved in identifying waste and abuse
 
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