Trump says Coca-Cola agrees to use pure cane sugar in US drinks

[reinaert]

But the impact on costs from hfcs vs cane sugar is not much of a difference in total material costs as a % of overall.

Whoosh.

 

[dairyair]

Sugar is sugar no matter what the source is.

Not according to the way our bodies break them down.
Companies have been moving away from hfcs for decades do to the bad rap they were getting 20-30 yrs ago.

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Metabolic Differences​

While the sweeteners themselves are not very different, the individual sugars they contain behave differently in your body Glucose raises blood sugar, stimulates the release of insulin and is metabolized in cells throughout your body. Fructose doesn't directly boost blood sugar because it's only metabolized in your liver, where it's converted into fat. As a result, it can boost your blood lipid levels -- consuming more than 100 grams of fructose daily may increase the levels of triglyceride in your bloodstream, according to an article in the April 2011 issue of "Circulation." Since cane sugar and high-fructose corn syrup have about the same proportion of glucose and fructose, the American Heart Association does not acknowledge one as more damaging to your health than the other.

High-Fructose Corn Syrup Guide: Nutrition, Risks, Side Effects, and More

High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a controversial liquid sweetener similar to table sugar that's common in sodas and processed foods.

www.livestrong.com

 

[dairyair]

Whoosh.

Yes, I know. I tried to explain it. I was responding to a poster that said people will drink less soda now because the costs are going to be higher with cane sugar vs hfcs.

Oh well.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Wow...TDS is rearing its ugly head in this thread

 

[Airyaman]

Yes, I know. I tried to explain it. I was responding to a poster that said people will drink less soda now because the costs are going to be higher with cane sugar vs hfcs.

Oh well.

Weird. If the difference in price is negligible, why did they switch to HFCS in the first place?

That said, the idea here is that sugar prices are currently spiking because the Dept. of Ag is restricting imported specialty sugars.

And even before that, it was going to be more epensive.

What RFK Jr.'s War on Corn Syrup Could Mean for Your Grocery Basket

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s plan to combat obesity and chronic diseases by targeting high-fructose corn syrup could mean changes in Americans' grocery baskets.

www.investopedia.com

Sugar Prices Rise on Hopes of Stronger US Sugar Demand

October NY world sugar #11 (SBV25 ) today is up +0.08 (+0.48%), and October London ICE white sugar #5 (SWV25 ) is up +3.60 (+0.75%). Sugar prices are moving higher today and posted 1-1/2 month highs on the outlook for stronger US sugar demand. Presi...

www.barchart.com

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

They are not the same level of unhealthy. The body breaks each down differently.

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High-Fructose Corn Syrup Guide: Nutrition, Risks, Side Effects, and More

High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a controversial liquid sweetener similar to table sugar that's common in sodas and processed foods.

www.livestrong.com

You didn't read your link.

Since cane sugar and high-fructose corn syrup have about the same proportion of glucose and fructose, the American Heart Association does not acknowledge one as more damaging to your health than the other.

 

[Jezcoe]

They are not the same level of unhealthy. The body breaks each down differently.

...

High-Fructose Corn Syrup Guide: Nutrition, Risks, Side Effects, and More

High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a controversial liquid sweetener similar to table sugar that's common in sodas and processed foods.

www.livestrong.com

Sugar is sugar.

Doesn’t matter where it comes from.

Fructose is fructose… glucose is glucose.

It is a chemical compound. The origin doesn’t matter.

 

[dairyair]

Weird. If the difference in price is negligible, why did they switch to HFCS in the first place?

That said, the idea here is that sugar prices are currently spiking because the Dept. of Ag is restricting imported specialty sugars.

And even before that, it was going to be more epensive.

What RFK Jr.'s War on Corn Syrup Could Mean for Your Grocery Basket

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s plan to combat obesity and chronic diseases by targeting high-fructose corn syrup could mean changes in Americans' grocery baskets.

www.investopedia.com

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Sugar Prices Rise on Hopes of Stronger US Sugar Demand

October NY world sugar #11 (SBV25 ) today is up +0.08 (+0.48%), and October London ICE white sugar #5 (SWV25 ) is up +3.60 (+0.75%). Sugar prices are moving higher today and posted 1-1/2 month highs on the outlook for stronger US sugar demand. Presi...

www.barchart.com

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Even though water vs sugar is about 99:1. 450 grams vs 39 grams.
It will have a bigger than 1% increase on product costs, per invesopedia.

Investopedia calculated that a shift from HFCS to other sweeteners could lead to a 10-15 per cent hike in the cost of certain products, especially beverages.

Coca-Cola to get more expensive in US? Here's how much more it costs to use real cane sugar

President Donald Trump said Coca-Cola agreed to use real cane sugar instead of corn syrup (HFCS) in their US beverages.

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[dairyair]

Sugar is sugar.

Doesn’t matter where it comes from.

Fructose is fructose… glucose is glucose.

It is a chemical compound. The origin doesn’t matter.

It does matter.
Glucose and fructose breaks down in the body in different ways.

One is mostly water soluble and one is fat soluble.
But, as I found out, cane sugar is 50/50 between the 2. HFCS is 55/45 leaning in the fructose side. So, slight differences between the 2 in sugar compounds.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Hmmmm.

Why didn't he tell them to lower the prices too?

TrumpFuel™ also SKYROCKETING in my area, I just paid over $50 to fill up my car THANKS DONNIE smh.

 

[Variant]

You didn't read your link.

Since cane sugar and high-fructose corn syrup have about the same proportion of glucose and fructose, the American Heart Association does not acknowledge one as more damaging to your health than the other.

It wouldn't make much difference to the heart, there is a metabolic difference given that HFCS is broken down more in the liver than sucrose.

 

[Hip octogenarian]

Saw this earlier and thought, "interesting, but is it really worth a thread?"

Trump says Coca-Cola agreed to use real cane sugar in US drinks: ‘It’s just better!’

Coca-Cola uses high fructose corn syrup in its US production, in contrast to cane sugar in countries like Mexico and the United Kingdom,

nypost.com

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I don't drink soft drinks very often, and then it's usually diet (everyone knows Trump likes Diet Coke so why does he care about cane sugar??), so I don't really have an opinion on this news.

Until I saw this:

https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/07/14/america-first-trade-win-usda-blocks-additional-specialty-sugar-imports

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The result?

Sugar Prices Higher as USDA Curbs Specialty Sugar Imports

So let me get this straight...Trump "convinces" Coca-Cola to use sugar but now it costs more because of what the Trump admin has done?

It's like they actually want higher prices.

Nothing Trump does makes sense. Most of our sugar is imported. The fact is, though, that sugar is far healthier than high fructose corn syrup, and drinks made with real cane sugar do taste better. Of course, neither of those are as bad for you as any artificially sweetened beverage.

 

[dairyair]

Hmmmm.

Why didn't he tell them to lower the prices too?

TrumpFuel™ also SKYROCKETING in my area, I just paid over $50 to fill up my car THANKS DONNIE smh.

Probably due to state gas taxes.

 

[upsideguy]

I haven’t had a cola of any stripe for twenty years.

Probably not twenty years, but many, many years for me. I use to love Pepsi, but my tastes/diet has changed...

Coca-cola concentrate is considered a hazardous material for shipping.... I don't know about others, but if its on a HazMat list, it does not get into my refrigerator nor my stomach.

Shipping Hazmat: Shocking Hazardous Materials | ShipLilly

www.shiplilly.com

 

[SavannahMann]

Saw this earlier and thought, "interesting, but is it really worth a thread?"

Trump says Coca-Cola agreed to use real cane sugar in US drinks: ‘It’s just better!’

Coca-Cola uses high fructose corn syrup in its US production, in contrast to cane sugar in countries like Mexico and the United Kingdom,

nypost.com

View attachment 67580187

I don't drink soft drinks very often, and then it's usually diet (everyone knows Trump likes Diet Coke so why does he care about cane sugar??), so I don't really have an opinion on this news.

Until I saw this:

https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/07/14/america-first-trade-win-usda-blocks-additional-specialty-sugar-imports

View attachment 67580188

The result?

Sugar Prices Higher as USDA Curbs Specialty Sugar Imports

So let me get this straight...Trump "convinces" Coca-Cola to use sugar but now it costs more because of what the Trump admin has done?

It's like they actually want higher prices.

Donald must have bet heavily on Sugar Commodities Futures.