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Trump orders stoppage of huge wind energy project.

Lord of Planar said:
All this new construction was highly subsidized. That is why president Trump stopped the projects. If the investors want to use their own money, they can still be built. Without the federal dollars, that are too expensive to build and maintain.
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So, no cite.

AFAIK, NV Energy's renewables aren't subsidized.
 
Michael Cole said:
Neither.
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Show the level graph?
Solar almost requires grid prices to increase, because added capacity needs added reserve capacity added to
cover cloudy days.
 
longview said:
Show the level graph?
Solar almost requires grid prices to increase, because added capacity needs added reserve capacity added to
cover cloudy days.
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My power bill has remained the same. The utility just got a tiny increase. So small it's unnoticeable.

Cloudy days in Nevada? C'mon, man.

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10 Sunniest Cities in the US - Illuminating Facts

The search for a sunny home is a common goal for many Americans. People often want to live in places with lots of bright days and clear skies. This desire leads them to look for cities known for their sunny weather. The ten sunniest cities in the U.S. offer a mix of warm climates and high rates
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Las Vegas #2
Reno #5

Here's a cute article that fits here. I don't know what her graduate degree is, but it's not English. Lol. She's right, though.

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I moved from a city that's cloudy 50% of the year to one of the sunniest places in the US. It's changed my life.

Years ago, I moved to Reno, one of the sunniest cities in the US. Before, I lived in one of the cloudiest regions in the Midwest. Life is better now.
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Michael Cole said:
So, no cite.

AFAIK, NV Energy's renewables aren't subsidized.
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This took me less than a minute to find:

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A $156M federal grant will soon make community solar in NV a reality • Nevada Current

Last month, the Nevada Clean Energy Fund was awarded the multi-million dollar “Solar for All” grant by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to support community solar projects that benefit low-income households.
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Those are solar panels for homes. Has nothing to do with NV Energy.

aociswundumho said:

Reid Gardner Battery Energy Storage System - Wikipedia

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The feds chipped in. The utility paid the lion's share.

NV Energy. Do you have any citations showing NV Energy being subsidized for its renewables? $100m on $257m battery storage doesn't prove much of anything.
 
They still have to have the standby generators ready to take over at a moments notice.
 
Michael Cole said:
Why would I look it up? The point being argued is subsidies.
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Not entirely, Solar has potential, but the backup and storage costs money, and those costs need to be counted. It is not how much a kilowatt hour cost when it’s available, but how much it cost to deliver power on demand.
 
longview said:
Not entirely, Solar has potential, but the backup and storage costs money, and those costs need to be counted. It is not how much a kilowatt hour cost when it’s available, but how much it cost to deliver power on demand.
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This is the fact they deny. It is an inconvenient truth they deny. And they call us deniers.

Following their cult's dogma is far more important to them. All they facts we have shown them over time, they deny.
 
Volunteer said:
You must be talking about nuclear power plants!
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Nope. Wind power. Solar also. But wind costs are as much higher.

One way it adds to electric prices is it forces the electric companies to pay more per power unit of fossil fuel power. The power plants are less efficient and cost more to operate when they have to throttle over wide swings to make solar and wind possible. Then, then you rely on solar and wind too much, you have more frequent outages.
 
What?
 

The real cost in this case isn't necessarily to the environment but to the loss of spare energy capacity.
 
Volunteer said:
What?
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We the public usually cannot see the power purchase agreements unless they complain about them.
Here is an example
Avangrid asks to renegotiate contract prices for Mass. offshore wind project
What this means is that they initially would get nearly 6 cents per kWh, increasing to 9.5 cents per kWh generated,
but were complaining that was not enough to sustain operations.
The average national wholesale price of electricity is
EIA sees higher U.S. wholesale power prices in 2025
Wholesale power prices could average $40 per megawatt hour (MWh) this year, rising 7% over 2024, the EIA said in a report on Monday.
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about 4 cents per kWh up 7% from 2024.
If the power purchase agreement is higher than the average, then the higher Cost of goods sold would be past on to consumers.
 
While at the same time, he's going to rip health care from coal miners.
 
LouC said:
MAGA = Neo-Luddite's
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People who use the term Luddite should at least know what they were complaining about!
It was not that they were against technology, but the industrial mills could produce better fabrics for less than the cost of lower quality homespun.
Making fabrics were a core part of a household’s annual income. There is no real comparison to the modern era, beyond that we should all be aware that AI has the potential to replace many mundane tasks.
 
Imagine a POTUS stopping the building of the border wall and selling off its material.
 
Slartibartfast said:
Another sign of the US shying away from modern technologies in preference for antiquated ones.
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Preference for polluting ones that make the fossil fuel industry billions.
 
longview said:
we should all be aware that AI has the potential to replace many mundane tasks.
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And many that aren't mundane. A slogan of the evil Peter Thiel company Palantir - whose stock was up 340% last year - is that AI should be involved in every decision. It's a company happy to serve tyranny with tools for killing people.
 
Craig234 said:
And many that aren't mundane. A slogan of the evil Peter Thiel company Palantir - whose stock was up 340% last year - is that AI should be involved in every decision. It's a company happy to serve tyranny with tools for killing people.
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AI it tricky, if it is running the ethics engine, it is limited to fairly mundane tasks, because it cannot make things up.
Used properly, AI can help a person make better decisions, but with the ethics engine, likely cannot make those decisions itself.
 
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